Yea, its sort of weird to me that someone hasnt built some kind of bridge to just convert the front page of a federation instance to a webpage, and even let people make accounts and post
Lol
I’ve been here 2 years and it’s popular enough for me 🤷.
Things dont need to be popular to be successful. Im loving the small town vibes we got.
Yeah this is good. I was a late comer, ya’ll really don’t want the kind of people who stayed on reddit after 2023
Our society is too fixated on instant gratification. People want a 1:1 Reddit replacement without putting in any work to help realize it. Let them stay on Reddit.
Indeed!
As a software engineer I love the idea of the fediverse […] I use lemmy and mastodon daily but they just don’t have the content or the people
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Can I ask how does Mastodon actually work? I lurk on lemmy cause it works like Reddit but for the life of me can’t figure out how to have some engagement or anything at all on M (i’m on “mas.to”)
He complains about there not being content on Mastodon while not even knowing how it works. Some software engineer he is.
To be fair, mastodon does have a problem of discoverability. Your shit isn’t automatically publicly federated to other instances, even when someone from said instance is following and interacting with you. IE: your account on mas.to received a comment and was retooted by someone on to.mas. Other accounts on to.mas that check their public timeline won’t necessarily see that original mas.to toot.
Yeah… I mean, I’ve an internet dweller for a long time, and I have to stop and wrap my head around that.
It’s a vibe coders probably. Not a real software engineer
It’s amazing how many of them don’t get that Reddit was built over a very long period of time. A lot of those Niche subreddits didn’t exist early on. It took a while
07-09 Reddit was basically only programmers and people who couldn’t figure out 4chan but liked the humor. Digg v4 was a debacle and in 2010 everyone came over to Reddit. I think By 2012, Reddit was scaled up enough to be good nut niche enough to be cool.
Reddit’s current scale seems very recent to me… Even as late as 2019, only a few people I knew used it. Now literally everyone I know is a regular visitor for some reason or another. And I’d argue the site is worse because of it. Too many niche subreddits, somehow both overmoderated AND undermoderated, the API nonsense killing this party apps, the shitty algorithm…
So yeah, it took two decades to be as big as it is now
Was on Reddit from 2009 until a month ago and it really went to shit - beyond the API meltdown - when the IPO dropped. A ton of system changes and the algorithm super-charging the rage-bait subs and of course the 'bots.
AND - which I noticed, at some point in 2024, they quietly locked down older posts (beyond the nornal archived ones) and made it so users even, could not scroll down into their comment history and pull up really old content. Comments older than 12 months disapeared and can only be found if they’d been saved.
Right now, I’m only keeping my reddit account active (even though I’m banned) because I can still access the saved content I liked.
May be pulling a lot of that, esp. the tech stuff over here after the new year…
100% agree. A lot of my favorite subreddits, were over 9 years old! “The Great Lemmy Migration” (aka Reddit Third-Party App Fiasco) only happened less than 3 years ago. Plus, the internet has so many more places to congregate in since 9 years ago. So Lemmy’s numbers are probably going to be lower overall, even with years passed. Which I’m totally fine with. I’d like for it to grow more in good content shared by more people on here, versus low quality content. This should come with time.
You really don’t need a billion of user to have a lively social media
While that’s true, but moving from the current 50k MAUs to say 250k would probably have a radical effect on more niche communities and allow for more posters on mid-sized communities.
Definitely
While that’s true, but moving from the current 50k MAUs to say 250k would probably have a radical effect on more niche communities
I really don’t believe so
50 to 250k a month would represent a population increase of over 4 times, so those sort of numbers would have a notable impact.
I expect those 200k extra to interact with already popular topics memes, politics and tech
Well yes, but not all of them will /only/ do that.
Honestly, I’m fine with that. I was in university back in the early 90’s, and the majority of folks on Usenet were either in university, or worked for large businesses or the government. The level of discourse was surprisingly high, especially compared to the sewer that is the modern internet. I dumped reddit a couple of years ago when it closed off access to 3rd-party apps, and I’m happy to leave it for the karma farmers, bots, and AI slop. I much prefer Lemmy.
I didn’t realize how angry the popular posts on Reddit made me feel. If the post isn’t about some awful news going on in the world it’s about someone’s frustration or hot take and it makes you want to add your opinion on the matter or refute someone else’s.
It’s especially bad when you shit on someone’s views and are “rewarded” for it by upvotes, it encourages you to be confrontational for the sake of being confrontational. I guess that’s the same here, but maybe it doesn’t seem as bad because we don’t have as many users — for now.
Anyway. That’s my opinion and I’m expecting you all to upvote me.
Well you get an upvote from me, not because you expect it but that you are quite correct in the rage-baiting that is consuming reddit ATM.
I really miss usenet.
Used to hang out on the startrek NG’s and had a blast. Met a ton of people and even on soc.men - which was a rock 'em, sock 'em kind of group (flame wars galore!) there were people that I came to admire and though we had differences of opinions, (and how!) we also found a lot that we agreed upon.
It all went away for me, when my ISP (comcast) dropped access because of the threat of prosecution for distributing child porn that then NY State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo promised, if they didn’t.
Part of why I gravitated to Reddit was that when I signed up it was the cascading newsgroup comment style (old.reddit.com) that I could make sense of.
Now I’m here via old.lemmy.zip, and I haven’t missed a beat.
Something doesn’t need to have mass appeal to be good or important.
This community is about making the platform grow so that a few active posters don’t have to keep entire communities active by themselves
Well, fear not, I’m going to be re-doing a whole bunch of my Vintage Apple posts (I yanked then down when I got banned on Reddit) - the how-to’s and the links to the great classic MacOS software sites and the fun stuff… soon enough.
I’m just slammed at work right now and heading into the holidaze season so I’m going to be out of it for the next few weeks. (I am the art director and “Nuts and bolts girl” for a couple of small shops in the city I live in and the owner does the stores up fancy for the season. It’s my crunch time of the year…)
Once I get all the shops set up, I’m going to go bonkers out here…
Looking forward to it!
Feel free to join [email protected] , it’s a community dedicated to communities growth
I’m here a month now, from Reddit - got banned there after 14 years, and honestly, find it far nicer and more peaceful than the hot mess Reddit has become since the IPO.
I think if you’re looking for tons of replies, the fediverse isn’t going to be it - not untll the mainstream sites become so toxic that users bolt in droves. When I think of how nice reddit was at the start, and how sparse some subs were… it just takes time for the user base to reach a critical mass.
Patience, grasshopper.
I made the jump two years ago (on a different instance, not the piefed.ca one) when the reddit API thing went down. The fediverse has grown by leaps and bounds since I first came over. Much more activity now, almost comparable to reddit, at least from my small view of the fediverse anyway.
Joined around the same time.
The conversation here is a different experience to what Reddit has become.
Reddit: “I didn’t read the article but here are all the reasons why my misinterpretation of what you said means you’re wrong, you deserve to be attacked for your thoughts and should never be allowed to post again”
An alternative or counter view isn’t related to as an attack.
Lemmy: “Oh thank you friend, I hadn’t considered it from that angle, and here is my considered response to your comments.”
It’s delightful.
I think if you’re looking for tons of replies, the fediverse isn’t going to be it - not untll the mainstream sites become so toxic that users bolt in droves.
You’ll start to hate Lemmy too if / when the great unwashed masses begin showing up. Those of us who’ve been around, shout to @[email protected], have watched this play out over and over again.
When the norms start congregating in a single place you can be assured that place is going to shit.
When the norms start congregating in a single place you can be assured that place is going to shit.
While I don’t disagree at all with that, the very nature of the fediverse sites means there won’t be a single point of ownership that turns itself into an advertising platform.
Once the reddit algorithm started adjusting people’s feed - including mine -about the time that the IPO dropped, it got really nasty, with the rage-bait subs that I never had even heard of, let alone visited, showing up on my homepage feed and then it turned bad really fast.
Straight up, it’s what got me caught up in a snark-fest that got me banned… which turned out to be one of the best things to happen to me online in a long time.
The poison on Reddit is real.
Happy to see that it’s getting downvoted.
not with that attitude
Much more freedom of speech here!
I’d say that’s the point, since the people will be diffused to different instances with different cultures and federations.
I mean, I’m fine here, really. Lemmy just needs a few more updates to it’s core software (coming in 1.0) and the app ecosystem and it can compete with reddit in terms of certain communities that are much more tightly-knit/specific.
I agree and that’s why I’m here
I think the fact it has survived for so long with an early usage of strictly Richard Stallman clones, now populated by even more insufferable turbolibs like Bluesky who fled the enXittification of the hellsite, means it is in fact very resilient to being killed by poor practices. How many of the users or hosts even contribute to projects? In the case of mastodon, you can’t even blame people for forking to escape the misery of no reaction federation, no search, and other generally horrible water and plain bread vibes. People measuring the success of it by how many users or widely federated connections between those users there probably have a mindset engendered by arguing about video game patch notes and later social media censorship (i.e. psychopathy)
