It had to happen eventually. Seems reasonable time to make the moce. It’ll be beneficial for all Linux users, and probably a huge relief for Gnome devs to be be able to focus purely on wayland.
It just will suck a bit for those on rolling release distros who still experience major issues with Wayland, particularly when its not Gnome or Wayland projects that need to make a fox - looking at you Nvidia.
I wouldn’t be surprised if other big DEs, such as KDE, start making firmer plans for dropping X11. I’m one of the 30% of KDE users still using X11 - for me it was Nvidia issues, and I do remain anxious about being reliant on drivers from a notoriously bad manufacturer. Having said the drivers have improved massively over the past 18-24 months for me at least, and maybe everyone moving over to Wayland is what’s needed to force Nvidia to act.
If this forces wayland into accepting global hotkeys or an easier/decent way of adding global hotkeys for selected programs, I’ll be happy, because that’s what made me switch back to windows (have a macro-keyboard, had to use a Windows program to upload the desired keys to it only to find out I have to focus obs to use the hotkeys).
I think Arch stats are a bad way to compare DE usage in that on Arch you specifically pick one but often people just go with whatever the distro has (as default). It used to be at least that Gnome was more popular default
If we take distro defaults into account, it’s possible Arch stats overestimate GNOME market share.
Based on tecmint list, the top 3 distros are Mint, MX Linux, and Endeavour. Their defaults are:
Mint - Cinnamon, MATE
MX Linux - Xfce, Plasma, Fluxbox
Endeavour - Plasma
Granted, the fourth one (Debian) does default to GNOME, but your typical Debian user is more experienced, so it’s less likely they stick to the default.
…I wish I had actual data instead of a bunch of guesses. :-/
Indeed. Sadly, corporations abused telemetry so much that it makes users automatically distrust software with it - even when it’s opt-in. As such I’m not surprised it isn’t more common, specially in the Linux ecosystem.
It had to happen eventually. Seems reasonable time to make the moce. It’ll be beneficial for all Linux users, and probably a huge relief for Gnome devs to be be able to focus purely on wayland.
It just will suck a bit for those on rolling release distros who still experience major issues with Wayland, particularly when its not Gnome or Wayland projects that need to make a fox - looking at you Nvidia.
I wouldn’t be surprised if other big DEs, such as KDE, start making firmer plans for dropping X11. I’m one of the 30% of KDE users still using X11 - for me it was Nvidia issues, and I do remain anxious about being reliant on drivers from a notoriously bad manufacturer. Having said the drivers have improved massively over the past 18-24 months for me at least, and maybe everyone moving over to Wayland is what’s needed to force Nvidia to act.
If this forces wayland into accepting global hotkeys or an easier/decent way of adding global hotkeys for selected programs, I’ll be happy, because that’s what made me switch back to windows (have a macro-keyboard, had to use a Windows program to upload the desired keys to it only to find out I have to focus obs to use the hotkeys).
If going by Arch Linux statistics, KDE dropping X11 will have a bigger impact than GNOME doing it.
I think Arch stats are a bad way to compare DE usage in that on Arch you specifically pick one but often people just go with whatever the distro has (as default). It used to be at least that Gnome was more popular default
If we take distro defaults into account, it’s possible Arch stats overestimate GNOME market share.
Based on tecmint list, the top 3 distros are Mint, MX Linux, and Endeavour. Their defaults are:
Granted, the fourth one (Debian) does default to GNOME, but your typical Debian user is more experienced, so it’s less likely they stick to the default.
…I wish I had actual data instead of a bunch of guesses. :-/
This is why some level of telemetry can be useful. That ranking is just DistroWatch rank which might poorly reflect actual popularity
Indeed. Sadly, corporations abused telemetry so much that it makes users automatically distrust software with it - even when it’s opt-in. As such I’m not surprised it isn’t more common, specially in the Linux ecosystem.