• Allero@lemmy.today
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    9 hours ago

    Ideally, yes. But if Nvidia is stubborn, there are two ways to go about it:

    • Say “screw it”, shift blame on Nvidia and not do anything to support Nvidia users (halving the userbase)
    • Or do something about it and implement what is necessary to keep them supported.
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      9 hours ago

      Say “screw it”, shift blame on Nvidia and not do anything to support Nvidia users (halving the userbase)

      So keeping the X11 session around for a decade after Intel and Radeon had their drivers ready is “not do anything to support Nvidia users”?

      Or do something about it and implement what is necessary to keep them supported.

      Who is paying for this task? Have NVidia users set up a pledge drive? Did any PC manufacturer?

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        7 hours ago

        You make it look like old Nvidia cards are the only reason X11 is held around.

        Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.

        There are plenty of instances of similar things happening here and there, and currently, ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.

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          9 minutes ago

          Heck, I had trouble installing remote desktop for my work (they use Omnissa Horizon) on Fedora, because the app still exclusively supports X11, and Fedora removed it in version 42.

          X11 applications still run under XWayland. The X11 session is gone, not all compatibility with X11 applications. Steam wouldn’t run if complete removal was the case.

          What’s Omnissa’s stance there? Will they port their application? Will they hire a developer to maintain a X11 session?

          ditching X11 will still be catastrophic for many users’ workflows.

          Are these users hiring a developer to maintain the X11 session? If not, they need to adapt then and go with the times and migrate to other solutions. RustDesk supports Wayland just fine, for example.