No I hear you. I just think you’re letting your negative perception of that element of the game’s community weigh in a little too heavily on your analysis of the game. People being annoying by talking about the game like beating it is a badge of honor (spoiler alert guys, you’re meant to beat the game) and your assessment of the Souls-like gameplay loop are, at best, tangentially related.
No shade to you, by the way. How the culture receives and talks about media is as big a part of its legacy as any constituent element of the text, and it’s a worthy subject for criticism. It’s just that, in my opinion, criticism is sharpened when the author is very clear about when they cease to review the game/book/movie and when they start to review the phenomena around that media.
Fwiw, this subject has been on my mind since reading a review of the movie Eddington in which the author talked about the temptation to stop talking about the movie and start talking about the subjects the movie was touching upon. I have been making a concentrated effort to improve my critical writing this year, and that line resonated with me. So, this diatribe has been fermenting in my head for awhile now, and your post was my excuse to get it out. By no means do I mean to lecture you on how you should feel about Dark Souls or it’s fandom.
I was just making fun of it because all the players i see pretend this is the hardest shit ever. I dont really care if a game is hard or not, you are meant to enjoy it and if someone enjoys this well great but please people dont be so elitist there are plenty games that you arent good in because the gameplayloop doesnt suit the way you learn this game.
I still think that there is a fundemental difference of skill level when it comes to games. The nature of ranked style multiplayer will always mean every enemy will act different every time and strategy evolves. The skill ceilling gets higher with every hour the game exists you dont have that with single player games like this. The enemy you meet at the first playthrough is still the same in your 100th one. If every player did speedruns and only the top 10% would jeek each other off the community would be very quiet.
The community praises the game for being hard and itself for being super skillfull because they beat it. This sentiment is part of the media. If as a community you do that and as developer you make fun of people who dont have enough “skill” you deserve to receive flak and maybe made fun of. If people think the button pressing has to be so perfectly timed they should go to a tekken competition or something and see how that will go when the enemy is a person that can change their moves and also klick buttons fast.
No I hear you. I just think you’re letting your negative perception of that element of the game’s community weigh in a little too heavily on your analysis of the game. People being annoying by talking about the game like beating it is a badge of honor (spoiler alert guys, you’re meant to beat the game) and your assessment of the Souls-like gameplay loop are, at best, tangentially related.
No shade to you, by the way. How the culture receives and talks about media is as big a part of its legacy as any constituent element of the text, and it’s a worthy subject for criticism. It’s just that, in my opinion, criticism is sharpened when the author is very clear about when they cease to review the game/book/movie and when they start to review the phenomena around that media.
Fwiw, this subject has been on my mind since reading a review of the movie Eddington in which the author talked about the temptation to stop talking about the movie and start talking about the subjects the movie was touching upon. I have been making a concentrated effort to improve my critical writing this year, and that line resonated with me. So, this diatribe has been fermenting in my head for awhile now, and your post was my excuse to get it out. By no means do I mean to lecture you on how you should feel about Dark Souls or it’s fandom.
I was just making fun of it because all the players i see pretend this is the hardest shit ever. I dont really care if a game is hard or not, you are meant to enjoy it and if someone enjoys this well great but please people dont be so elitist there are plenty games that you arent good in because the gameplayloop doesnt suit the way you learn this game.
I still think that there is a fundemental difference of skill level when it comes to games. The nature of ranked style multiplayer will always mean every enemy will act different every time and strategy evolves. The skill ceilling gets higher with every hour the game exists you dont have that with single player games like this. The enemy you meet at the first playthrough is still the same in your 100th one. If every player did speedruns and only the top 10% would jeek each other off the community would be very quiet.
The community praises the game for being hard and itself for being super skillfull because they beat it. This sentiment is part of the media. If as a community you do that and as developer you make fun of people who dont have enough “skill” you deserve to receive flak and maybe made fun of. If people think the button pressing has to be so perfectly timed they should go to a tekken competition or something and see how that will go when the enemy is a person that can change their moves and also klick buttons fast.