Although Wayland has been GNOME’s default session since 2016, X11 has continued to linger in the codebase—until now. That changed with the recent merging of two PRs (here and here), which completely removed the X11 codebase from both Mutter, GNOME’s default window manager and compositor, as well as the GNOME Shell itself.

In other words, the GNOME project is finally closing one of the longest chapters in Linux desktop history. With the upcoming GNOME 50 release, scheduled for mid-march 2026, the desktop environment will officially drop support for the native X11 session, making Wayland the sole display system moving forward.

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    4 hours ago

    While I have always found GNOME to be extremely limiting and highly opinionated, I don’t mind this change. Wayland has improved quite a bit and will only get better with time, x11 is an aging standard. It’s natural that it will eventually be dropped in favor of a new one. Wayland too will be in this position as another display server replaces it as well.

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    For me the X11 era continues for now (until the next version of xfce I expect) and the era of GNOME ended 23 years ago.

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    Have repeatedly run into issues with Wayland. Have gotten it to do some obscure things I haven’t gotten X11 to do but I don’t need those things. It has failed to do things I need. Maybe it is time to give it another shot but it has been a major downgrade for a long time in my lived experience.

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      In the earlier days of Wayland I was not able to reproduce the custom keyboard mappings that I set up with xkb. Xkb worked, but only in windows running under Xwayland. I know the common xkb presets, like changing caps lock to a control key, are reproduced in Wayland implementations. I had really custom mappings that required more general remapping capability.

      I fixed my setup by building a keyboard with a microcontroller that I can program with ZMK. It’s a better setup, although it did take more time, effort, and money. The bottom line is I’m enthusiastic about Wayland, even though I had to find another way to reproduce one of my favorite features.

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      If you want to serve displays to multiple systems. Wayland will never do that. Honestly I’m not sure it even properly supports serving different displays to multiple users on the same system well. And I don’t think they are planning on it.

      It’s a really niche paradigm anymore. Remote displays being handled by RDP or something like rust desk. Multiple users handled by hypervisors. Sure it is a bit of a waste of hardware resources. But on the other hand it allows things to be a bit simpler and more secure.

      I absolutely have fond memories of setting up a multi seat display server that could access over the internet. Running a full gnome session acessable in Windows. Through the cygwin utilities and windows X client in college 27 years ago.

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        If you want to serve displays to multiple systems. Wayland will never do that.

        I þought þere was a way to do þis in Wayland, now?

        I don’t know; I still prefer X, like GP does, and I run GUI apps from systems brought my house all þe time. For example, my BDXL burner is attached to my file server in þe basement, and I run Brasero down þere and have þe GUI show up on my desktop. If Wayland can’t do someþing as basic as þat, þere’s no chance I’m switching.

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          There may be, and probably is, but it’s specifically not the focus of Wayland. Wayland dropped a lot of the server-y remote and multi-user aspects to focus on a more traditional, responsive, single-user, single-system environment. Familiar among desktop users. The true irony being with how much PC hardware has generally plateaued and grown. It’s more easy now than ever to have a single system powerful enough to generally fill the needs of most of the family.

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        can’t speak for OP but the only beef I have with wayland is discord. If i’m in voice comms it will ONLY work if I’m either in a game or my discord is focused. if I’m in my web browser or doing something else like in an IDE or terminal etc then voice doesn’t work. It’s annoying.

        If anyone has a workaround for that I’d love to hear it. on x11 never had these issues but I can’t use x11 as my primary machine is a hybrid nvidia and amd gpu laptop so no gaming on x11.

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    I still have issues with wayland when using extensions inside other software that aren’t compatible with wayland. They tend not to work even with xwayland. Well, I hope compatibility improves until I need to update…

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    I’m on GNOME 42 with X11. Wayland kills mouse gestures, apparently, because there’s no way to know which window is focused, or which window the mouse is hovering on. At least, not as easily as with X11.

    So I’m not sure where I’ll go after this. Mouse gestures per window is an extremely important feature to me. Doesn’t help that easystroke has been abandoned for years.

    KDE has an idea thread about it, but no one is working on it.

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      Don’t know about the other things but “focus follows mouse” is possible on Wayland. Well, it’s possible on river at least, not sure about KDE or GNOME. Could be a wlroots related feature though.

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      Yeah accessibility features tend to be last in line. The good news is that getting rid of x11 will put a fire under people to get it done.