“these new cars have a teeny tiny fuel tank with a tiny range! They used to have a bigger tank!”
“Drive an old car”
In this case the new car is objectively inferior, and I can’t buy a new old car anymore.
When something complains about very real problems due to missing functionality, the proper answer isn’t “fuck you, use the old stuff, or stop yearning for the functionality that te intentionally crippled”
Alright then, since everyone assumes I’m here to participate in this shitty flamewar instead of genuinely asking what someone is talking about: the article does a pretty good job of explaining what the idea is behind not giving applications absolute coordinates to position their windows in. If that isn’t enough and you’re one of those people who insist that it must be those evil Wayland devs pushing their security agenda down everyones throats, then you might consider how much of a pain this was for any WM that wanted to do something like scrollable workspaces or managing a device that doesn’t have a standard screen shape. If anything, giving apps access to global coordinates the way X did, just makes them less portable to other environments. There are trade-offs here and you might disagree with the compromise we landed on for now, but all of this has already been discussed for years so at this point I really don’t care for snarky commentary from people who aren’t willing to contribute towards the changes they want to see.
missing feature that used to be there but has been removed in the name of protecting me from myself, is an inability to customize.
You could just use X11
“these new cars have a teeny tiny fuel tank with a tiny range! They used to have a bigger tank!”
“Drive an old car”
In this case the new car is objectively inferior, and I can’t buy a new old car anymore.
When something complains about very real problems due to missing functionality, the proper answer isn’t “fuck you, use the old stuff, or stop yearning for the functionality that te intentionally crippled”
Which one are you talking about?
Window positioning under Wayland
Alright then, since everyone assumes I’m here to participate in this shitty flamewar instead of genuinely asking what someone is talking about: the article does a pretty good job of explaining what the idea is behind not giving applications absolute coordinates to position their windows in. If that isn’t enough and you’re one of those people who insist that it must be those evil Wayland devs pushing their security agenda down everyones throats, then you might consider how much of a pain this was for any WM that wanted to do something like scrollable workspaces or managing a device that doesn’t have a standard screen shape. If anything, giving apps access to global coordinates the way X did, just makes them less portable to other environments. There are trade-offs here and you might disagree with the compromise we landed on for now, but all of this has already been discussed for years so at this point I really don’t care for snarky commentary from people who aren’t willing to contribute towards the changes they want to see.
I am not mad at the Wayland devs, it’s just unfortunate.
I wasn’t really asking you but thanks for chiming in I guess.
First day on a public forum?
If that was the case then maybe I’d have more patience for disingenuous shit like this.