• dalekcaan@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    If slightly less but still very much recent history is any indicator, that attitude is exactly what got us into this shit in the first place. One group isn’t doing what’s right, so let’s just hand victory to the group that pledges to do as much evil as they think they can get away with. Too many people with better things to do with their fucking time than keep a felon pedophile rapist wannabe-Mussolini conman out of office, I guess. Glad you got all the better things done though, with your fucking time.

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        Right, because the Republicans control the presidency, the house, the Senate, and inexplicably the supreme court, obviously it’s those darn stinking Democrats who did all this. Don’t get me wrong, I am livid at their inaction, but to throw your hands up and say “whelp, better just hand the Republicans the key to the castle” is at best defeatist and at worst actively destroying this country.

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          I hope you’re ready to hear that same refrain constantly and increasing over the next 12 months.

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          at worst actively destroying this country.

          That’s the best thing that can happen for the rest of the world, constantly bullied and terrorised by the bipartisan regime.
          But americans didn’t give a fuck about that. Now they cry bcs they got a taste of their own medicine.
          Well guess what, we don’t give a fuck about you either, on the contrary.
          Let Trump do his worst and you can all rot in hell where you belong.
          The sooner the better.

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              yes you’ve got me.
              Being against the cancer of the earth, that has invaded, carpet bombed, droned, bullied, regime changed or sanctioned half the world and helped terrorists or genocide regimes is being a bad person.

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                You’re in favor of civillians suffering because their goverment is authoritarian. That makes you just as bad as the authoritarian government.

                Same energy as me saying “i hope all the russians suffer because of putin”.

                Yes. Your advocacy for this position makes you a bad person.

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                  half of those people chose for that, the other ones for the light authoritarian version.
                  As I said, you’re all guilty, half of you are just hypocrites pretending to be better.

                  Same energy as me saying “i hope all the russians suffer because of putin”.

                  LOL again hypocrites, like it’s not most of you dehumanising the ‘orcs’ and ‘Ruzzians’.
                  Disgusting comments on vile videos war deaths they so enjoy posting.
                  And what authoritarian party was that ghoul Clinton from?
                  You know, the sociopath having an orgasm when she could enthusiastically share with the world how your regime terrorist proxies sodomised Gadhaffi with a bajonet?
                  Or the drone king, Genocide Joe?

                  But you want to distance yourself now from this particular authoritarian government?
                  You disgust me, only an american would be this arrogant, pretentious and deluded to call someone a bad person for calling out their hypocrisy and double standards.
                  Disgusting people

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          In 2020 they pushed a candidate with obvious mental decline and hid it for the next 4 years. Allowed him to study in the running until primaries were over so they could install another person that wasn’t trusted

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            That’s a lot of words for giving the nazis a pass for being nazis

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                You don’t beat the ratchet effect by ignoring it, you beat it by keeping the ratchet in the stationary position until you can figure out how to loose the pawl. No one on the left benefits by letting the ratchet twist right. Well, accelerations do in theory, but I reject the collateral damage of that strategy.

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                  Talking as if voters have any leverage on that ratchet, they give up what little leverage they might have with every vote cast for Democrats.

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                    Incorrect. The one form of leverage they have on the ratchet is choosing between the spinny part and the still part. Every vote for a Democrat is a vote for the still part. Every vote not cast for the still part is a willful gamble on the spinny part.

                    Both parts are bad, but the spinny part is worse and getting worser. Electoral leverage has a fairly narrow and unambiguous scope, and for anyone on the left who doesn’t have the luxury of RCV or competitive third parties, that leverage is best applied via BNMW.

                    Other forms of leverage (local elections, workplace unionization, direct action) are highly encouraged, but beyond the scope of elections. Those other forms of leverage will be more productive under the lesser evil than the greater one. Every vote cast for a Democrat (excepting districts where third parties are competitive, obviously) is a vote for the most favorable achievable conditions to effect other forms of leverage.

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      If the last 24 hours is any indicator, the democratic party is cowardly, weak, spineless, and ineffectual and I refuse to waste another nanosecond on them.

      If neither side is capable of, in your own words, “doing what’s right”, why waste time on either of them?

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        I think the main point is that the Democrats are all those things, and yet still more effective than you at pushing the country left, so people support them because it’s better than supporting Republicans

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        Because, as I already (rather pointedly, I thought) said, one party isn’t not doing “what’s right,” (Which are your words, actually. I was quoting you.) it is actively and aggressively doing what’s very, very wrong. If those two are equivalent to you, then by all means don’t vote, as you might just be doing the rest of us a favor.