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If the price is similar to a PS5 I will buy one. I was going to build a PC this winter or spring for my son but this might be even better, we dont care about running at max settings I just need a decent frame rate and stability.
If the GameCube is $100 I’ll buy it
I have seen that Valve has said the Frame will be cheaper than the Index. That would really make it.
This is gonna be good.
The lacking international support with Valve hardware limits market spread like most consoles. Plus they’ll probably not really advertise outside of Steam store and these initial YouTube videos/Influencer releases.
Valve kinda hamstrings their own full potential despite doing so well already.
What markets can’t you buy Steamdeck in? (honest question)
They will show up in stores in Japan at least
TL;DR: The Steam Machine’s specs are on par or better with the PS5.
So, old.
Sure, it’s old, it’s also the current console generation…
I think it’s a bit premature to announce that someone is about to win something when they haven’t released it yet and the last time they released
somethinga desktop console it floppedEdit
Oh boy, I thought it was clear we were comparing desktop consoles to desktop consoles.
I am not referring to the Steam Deck, the handheld system.
I’m referring to the Steam Machine, which was a desktop console and it did poorly.
I think it’s a bit premature to announce that someone is about to win something when they haven’t released it yet and the last time they released something a desktop console it flopped
Why is an 11 year old console that has been followed up by several successful hardware releases including a device that is basically a desktop with a screen built-in relevant at all to an assessment of the new Steam Machine?
IMO… is not relevant to compare the steam deck, because the handheld market and in the desktop market are very different people.
I do not have a steam deck, but I would probably be interested in a new steam desktop, since I game primarily on a console and would like better access to the PC market.
However my point was it was premature to declare it a winner, when 1) it has not yet been released and 2) when other consoles currently on the market are still dominating the steam deck when it comes to sales.
Clearly we have different opinions on that and you are viciously opposed to mine.
I do think this could be a good way of converting steam deck users to desktop consoles.
By what metric did the Steam Deck “flop”?
The metric that I didn’t say deck, and that you never even heard of the steam machine
The steam machine is not at all the last thing they released. The steam deck, the valve index, and the HTC Vive were all considerably successful hardware releases since the failure of the original steam machine.
In regard to the article being a desktop console. My apologies for thinking that was obvious.
the last time they released something
Maybe you just didn’t know that the last time they released something was the Deck?
You should check it out, it’s pretty cool!
Article is about a desktop console. I was referring to the desktop consoles. My apologies for thinking that was obvious.
Lmao I love a good pivot.
Cheers.
There’s a type of person who associates being number one with being the only thing that has value. When something with less power by their metrics does well by different metrics it’s an assault on their worldview. It’s the same reason truck drivers get angry at hybrid drivers.
Or I’m right because I’m referring to the Steam Machine, not the Steam Deck, and its flop was so magnificent that you’ve never heard of it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Machine_(computer)
Are you the kind of person who would publicly admit you were an ass for no reason?
We have all heard of the steam machine. But valve has released so much more successful hardware since then.
The article is about the new steam machine. I’m talking about the “steam machine” or non-handheld specifically.
The Steam Deck was a flop? I was unaware.
I think if there are objective specifications of a device, and the device’s specifications are measurably better than another device there’s nothing wrong with comparing the two.
However, the root of my response, which has been so gracefully sidestepped, is regarding the root of the comment that the PS5 is old. Yes, it may be a few years old, but it is still the current console generation.
I guess everyone should just go out and chuck all their old consoles into the giant mountains of E-waste because we should all be setting up to have the newest most powerful thing!
My old ps2 is actually still running and I replay some old favorites from time to time haha
I guess that’s one way to react.
The Switch was also old at launch, and it completely dominates the market to the point where Sony openly reclassified it as “not a competitor” to save face.
Nintendo is an evil, horrible company, but at this point they proved beyond a doubt that, yes… The specs race IS a red herring and the most dollars do NOT care.
Well, the switch has relatively no competition and a long history of good titles.
If the steamdeck could be priced at Switch levels, I think it might dominate. Obviously there is a huge hardware difference making that price high.
