The latest plea for official Proton support started on Reddit, where Scout339v2 shared their screenshot of Rust running “on a server with EAC disabled to show that the game already works perfectly on Linux.” Disabling Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) is the key factor here, and part of a broader conversation where Facepunch and its Linux/Proton userbase don’t see eye-to-eye.

While it’s true Rust runs on Proton, you can’t join official servers, and most unofficial servers, with EAC disabled. Facepunch considered changing its stance in 2022 when the Steam Deck launched, but didn’t end up introducing official Proton support. COO Alistair McFarlane said at the time that Linux is “safer for cheat developers,” and that trying to support EAC on another platform could reduce the team’s ability to support Windows.

  • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    28 minutes ago

    The words of a man who made a game that is now irrelevant mean nothing to the ravenous Linux user.

  • Auth@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    37 minutes ago

    Thats fair, I dont expect every game to open up to linux. I know Kernel AC can be easily bypassed but it still filters some cheaters and raises the barrier to entry. It also gives a lot of people peace of mind.

  • kbal@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    3 hours ago

    Those who don’t support them are not serious about software quality.

  • TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    ·
    4 hours ago

    It’s interesting how gamers are supposed to have a problem with people cheating in a video game, but not with their computer being compromised by bad actors.

  • DigDoug@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    4 hours ago

    If ring-0 access is the only way you can stop cheaters, your game must be poorly programmed.

    • ampersandrew@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 hour ago

      Nah, cheating is just absurdly hard to stop. Even ring 0 anti cheat doesn’t stop it entirely. At some point, I feel like the answer is similar to piracy, in that you must accept that there’s going to be some amount of it, and then find a way to mitigate the damage. Because there are solutions to both of them that both go too far.

      • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        41 minutes ago

        I think the way that CS does it is really the best one. Prevent the simple cheats, record games and let people handle the edge cases based on reports and suspicious activity.

        • ampersandrew@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          34 minutes ago

          I didn’t know CS did this, but yeah, at a high level, that’s how I’d address it, too. It’s probably not a solution that scales super well due to the manual review required, and I know that game has a reputation of people still being annoyed by cheaters, but it might be the best we can do without being very invasive, like the ring 0 stuff.

    • Mwa@thelemmy.club
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      3 hours ago

      Reminds me that DRM used to run Kernel Side until software side drm was the safest/less sketchy option.

  • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    4 hours ago

    Oh no, where will I go now to have 12 year olds tell me to kill myself while shouting racial slurs at my base.

  • Shanmugha@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    48
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Well, I for one am serious about anti-cheat: if the company making the game makes it more important than the game itself, I make game not important for me

  • lordnikon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    7 hours ago

    This always screams of a person that thinks their views are the default views of reality. Really shows how self centered he is.

  • LostWanderer@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    6 hours ago

    Unsurprising, Facepunch were hostile in the past to the idea, temporarily played around with the idea, and always will be ambivalent. Given the direction that Windows is heading, it would be a time to consider cultivating fans on different operating systems. As Microsoft is messing up in a huge way these days.

    • warm@kbin.earth
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      6 hours ago

      Let me tell you, the average Rust player doesnt care and Facepunch know it.

      • LostWanderer@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        5 hours ago

        Without a doubt, as long as these players get their Rust fix, they couldn’t care less about Linux or the state of Windows.