As of this week, half of the states in the U.S. are under restrictive age verification laws that require adults to hand over their biometric and personal identification to access legal porn.

Missouri became the 25th state to enact its own age verification law on Sunday. As it’s done in multiple other states, Pornhub and its network of sister sites—some of the largest adult content platforms in the world—pulled service in Missouri, replacing their homepages with a video of performer Cherie DeVille speaking about the privacy risks and chilling effects of age verification.

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    9 hours ago

    I don’t think that’s the main reason folks are concerned about having their government IDs stolen.

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      Yeah, people already browse porn with zero privacy precautions, so linking their fetishes to them would be trivial. The main concern is having yet another privacy vulnerability vector for identity theft.

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        And there are so many of those these days that a new one genuinely doesn’t matter.

        If you haven’t been offered a free year of identity theft insurance recently? Some company/org is plugging their ears.

        SSNs are a fundamentally broken system (look it up). Photo IDs? I will guarantee you that if you go to ANY city there is someone at the DMV who will look up whatever you want for fifty bucks. The ONLY reason credit card fraud is less massive than it is (and it is MASSIVE) is because the CC companies put in the effort to monitor that and lock it down.

        EVERYONE should have their credit records locked unless they are actively applying for something.


        No. the issue with these is that we live in an increasingly christofacist society where even looking at porn makes you Unclean. And if you look at the wrong porn? Off to the reeducation camps with you!

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          Um, having direct access to pull my government photo ID is a huge deal. Lots of online services require photo ID or other more in-depth verification to pull loans and stuff. So yes, this new vector IS a serious concern.

          And paying someone $50 at any DMV? C’mon, man, that sounds like some unfounded bullshit. Hardly anyone is going to risk a cushy government job with solid benefits and great hours for fucking $50, let alone the potential risk of going to jail.

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            Your “government photo ID” really isn’t all that useful unless people are skilled enough to make fakes (which is a whole different mess). What matters is your SSN, your credit card number, your address, etc.

            And those are basically everywhere.

            As for the DMV thing: You sweet summer child.

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              As for the DMV thing: You sweet summer child.

              Lol, dude, I’m in my early 40s. Go to the DMV and try bribing a government official and report back. Please. I beg of you.

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              this “you’d have to make a fake to use it!!” argument is especially ridiculous when you’ve posted on a story about submitting a picture of your photo ID in place of a physical one. and one of the pieces of info you say actually “matters” is literally written on said ID

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                Huh?

                If you go to a bar with an ID you cut out of printer paper, they are going to throw your ass out Jazzy Jeff style. The actual ID isn’t useful without a LOT of additional resources… at which point your photo means almost nothing.

                As for stuff like addresses? Again, that is basically EVERYWHERE because just about EVERY org has a data breach at least once a year. You might as well be saying people need your long form birth certificate to know what your name is.

                Like… I’mma be blunt with you. A lot of the “your photo ID is the most important secure thing ever” nonsense comes from republican chuds trying to disenfranchise voters who live in cities. It is the idea that your photo ID is some magical artifact that protects you when the reality is that it is basically just a way to tie your name to your face. All the pertinent information is everywhere else.

                Like… photo IDs tend to be one of those weird cases where we are ACTUALLY using biometrics (in this case, appearance) as a login rather than a password. Anything of value will just use that to cross reference you with an entry that is already in a system.

                And in terms of the actual avenues for fraud? That ID doesn’t mean shit.

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                  my dude nobody is using a stolen identity to go to a bar. they’re taking out lines of credit and you don’t have to always present a physical, photo ID for those because there are entire industries of creditors that have no physical location. you don’t even seem to be aware of the reasons why someone would bother stealing someone’s identity so if you’d like to continue this argument I invite you to have it with yourself.

                  edit: and MAJOR lol at using a bar as your example. establishments well known for being sticklers about the quality of fake IDs you “sweet summer child”

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                    And legit creditors just need your SSN, address, and maybe an old address. They run a credit check (hence why you freeze that shit) and then you are driving away in your 4k a month pickup truck.

                    And less legit creditors… don’t ask too many questions other than where you live and where your loved ones love.

                    But hey. Feel free to throw a hissy fit rather than think through why that plastic card actually doesn’t matter anywhere near as much as you thought it did. I mean, it would be nicer if you could actually sit and think and learn. But this is the 2020s. Ain’t nobody doing introspection.