• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    36 minutes ago

    So it would be OK to hit the suppliers with bombs like the US does in South America?

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    I read the first paragraph of this article and I already think it sucks. If heroin was fully legalized, zero restrictions, we’d be much better off than the current situation we have right now with the war on drugs, fentanyl analogs, and xylazine. Full stop.

    Second paragraph:

    Heroin distribution and sales would quickly become a huge, multibillion-dollar industry. They would become a significant part of GDP, even though heroin harms and often kills those who consume it. Given the increasingly naked corruption of U.S. politics, the heroin industry would be able to purchase massive political influence, enough to block any attempts to limit the harm it does — the harm it knows it does, because heroin industry executives would surely be aware of the damage their products inflict.

    This is already happening. Who is this author and why is he so ignorant of the past few decades of opiate problems in the US? There is not a significant fundamental difference between heroin and any other opiate/opioid. I say this as someone who has experimented with many types of them.

    Based on this I’m not gonna read the rest of the article because he’s already demonstrated a head-up-ass perspective.

    • FauxLiving@lemmy.world
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      Based on this I’m not gonna read the rest of the article because he’s already demonstrated a head-up-ass perspective.

      You do know that the entire rest of the article never mentions drugs ever again and you’re getting needlessly spun-up about a metaphor for social media and you’re just trolling, right?

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      10 hours ago

      Paul Krugman is a nobel-prize winning economist who used to have a column in the NY Times. He has a relatively impressive record of predicting terrible things.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman

      And while I certainly don’t want to push back on the difference between heroin and other opium derivatives, it’s worth noting that legally speaking they’re both exactly as illegal when not used as prescribed for the treatment of pain or disease.

      It’s not a blog post about heroin or opiates, though, so quibbling over the imperfections of his analogy is kinda missing the point. Please give it another read if you have a few minutes; the analogy is fairly apt, though very depressing as an American.

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      Has this dude never heard of the tobacco, alcohol or gun Industry ?

      He’s talking about commercial heroin like it’s some outlandish and unthinkable idea that a harmful thing would become a billion dollar industry

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        He’s deliberately making the point accessible because he’s writing for all levels of readers, including Americans.

        He won the nobel prize for economics and was one of the few sane voices during the great recession.

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      Who is this author and why is he so ignorant of the past few decades of opiate problems in the US?

      The author is Paul Krugman, a little known economist, writes for the papers I think.

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        Sorry if I’m getting whooshed, but Krugman is an infamous economist. He takes really big swings and is sometimes incredibly wrong.

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        I’ve heard the name before but I’m not super tuned into this area. The analogy just really struck out for me in the first two paragraphs, monumentally so. If he writes with this amount of conviction about something he clearly has no idea about, I’m not likely to trust anything else that he writes in the same article. It’s important to know your limitations.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      If heroin was fully legalized, zero restrictions, we’d be much better off than the current situation we have right now with the war on drugs, fentanyl analogs, and xylazine. Full stop.

      If we hadn’t invaded Afghanistan and started importing heroin in bulk through Ahmed Wali Karzai’s mafia connections, we wouldn’t have tons of cheap heroin to hook people to begin with. Also, we did have fully legalized (functionally) zero restrictions opioids, back under Bush Jr.

      That’s what Oxycotin was.

      If you want to describe the US as a criminal nacro-state, you can start at the Florida pill-mills that flooded the country with hundreds of billions of dollars in highly addictive prescription drugs and made the Sackler Family some of the wealthiest people on the planet.

      Based on this I’m not gonna read the rest of the article

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      Yeah because the tobacco, pain reliever, and social media industries clearly show how great and non predatory totally legal heroin would be.

  • suoko@feddit.it
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    I’m not sure heroine is the right sample, I know digital products cause addiction like heroine, maybe cocaine would be more realistic when talking about possible increase in GDP, with all that heroin around the US population would be wiped out in a couple of gen