• Spaniard@lemmy.world
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    The anarchists can either concede that smartphones are unnecessary (along with anything else that takes such huge production scales to create), or concede that they depend on outside production that can do so.

    Of course if an anarchist community desires smartphone they will depend on other anarchist communities for the resources to build it or to acquire what they build. One of his early points is that in an anarchist world there will be a lot of anarchist communities and they will be different to one another because different people, different needs but that doesn’t mean they will fight, they will co-exist, respect each other, depend on each other and share.

    The exact quote was:

    Anarchism is about creating social structures and improve the lives of those in these structures. There is no end goal or concrete structure to these structures. They change and adapt as the people within them change, leave or enter.

    For some the concept of leaving is difficult, because in some of the systems the individual doesn’t have a choice but anarchism is also about choice.

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      The sheer complexity and international logistics required to produce a smartphone far surpasses what can be created in relatively small communities, and horizontalism works better at smaller scales. A commune focused entirely on mining rare earths is going to have different class interests than one focused on semiconductor production, and at the scales these are currently produced at already horizontalism begins to break down.

      If we imagine a global world of decentralized, interconnected anarchist cells, we need to grapple with how the geographical division of labor and resources will impact this mutual aid, or if it will eventually give way to competition and the resurgance of capitalism. Marxism’s analysis of the continual growth in scale, complexity, and interconnectedness of production fits nicely with humanity taking a conscious role in this development and direct it towards satisfying needs rather than profits.

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        the resurgance of capitalism

        Anarcocapitalism can very well be one of those communities as long as it doesn’t extinguish the freedom of choice of communities that don’t want to partake in that and respects their choice and their living space.

        People can figure it out, we are just not ready as a species our greed is too big and Marxisms is another proof of that greed.

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          That depends on capital being constrained by humanity, which has never been the case until socialists have overtaken the state and collectivized the principle aspects of the economy. Capitalism itself cannot exist without a state. This in turn overtakes and subsumes the surrounding communities. Anarcho-capitalism cannot last for more than an instant.