People had a lot of shit to say about the superman movie trailer too, but it was a really good movie that had more emotional impact than the last 10 marvel movies put together.
Im inclined to let them run here, no matter how superficial it looks at first glance.
Honestly I was kind of let down by Superman, considering how much people hyped it up. The first two acts were interesting and had me hooked, but the ending just felt a little flat to me. It definitely felt like a “hold on, we’re just getting started” movie rather than something standalone.
I wasn’t especially fond of the characterization of Clark’s parents, but I think that’s just a personal preference and being used to other interpretations (Smallville, DCAU, etc). I do think they worked very well with the tone of the movie.
It also didn’t feel particularly dissimilar to most Marvel movies, just with a little better tone and planning.
I wasn’t especially fond of the characterization of Clark’s parents
A matter of taste of course but I actually loved them… I hated the Barbie and Ken portrait for red neck farmers… these ones felt like more real “people of the land”
I specially liked the part of his Dad who seemed so physically vulnerable and weakened by age/work/illness giving the biggest emotional push to a figurative Man of Steel
Yeah, and a lot of depictions of the Kent farm have a very Norman Rockwell vibe, with a large two story house, a huge barn/silo, and acres of land. It’s very iconic, but also hasn’t been the reality for American farmers for at least 50 years. In this movie, the relatively small plot of land and cramped Ranch house felt much more plausible for modern-day Kents.
… Barbie and Ken? What does that even mean in this context? Just physical appearance, or something more?
I honestly didn’t even consider physical appearance, if that’s what you mean. I meant the more simplistic approach to their personality. They were particularly one-note, able to offer a simple home and philosophy, but not much more. It feels very much like they were only meant for one or two scenes and are never meant to be seen again.
… Barbie and Ken? What does that even mean in this context? Just physical appearance, or something more?
Yes they often played by pretty city people
I honestly didn’t even consider physical appearance, if that’s what you mean. I meant the more simplistic approach to their personality. They were particularly one-note, able to offer a simple home and philosophy, but not much more. It feels very much like they were only meant for one or two scenes and are never meant to be seen again.
They WERE in a scene or two… they were intended to provide a “back to centre” anchor for Superman/Clark, they were not main even supporting cast
“City People”? Is there a particular look you mean by this?
they were not main even supporting cast
Right, they weren’t especially important to the plot except one or two scenes. And don’t really have the emphasis that they’ll be particularly important in the future, which is contrary to past incarnations. Like I said, they worked for this movie… but, especially considering the “But wait… there’s more” feeling of the movie, and that it’s meant as the start of a new franchise… they feel flat and rather unimportant. Which felt disappointing.
Regarding your second paragraph, I see your point. I did not really think Clark parents will have much to do in the future (they honestly have not even in the better developed and much longer animated movies). They are just (usually) moral anchor for the early years of Superman and sometimes the “escape from the city life”… I would not expect them to feature in the future films
I was fine with Clark’s parents, but bothered that they met Lois for the first time, she stayed overnight, and we got virtually no interaction. Definitely one of the spots where I’d have liked to see some of the screen time given to overlong action scenes or the Justice Whatever reallocated to Superman’s supporting cast. I did like the movie overall, though.
Imo it felt like Gunn’s DC version of GoTG. He has a formula and hasn’t strayed from it in the last 10 or so years; it’s starting to get really old imo.
It’s not helping that everyone seems to be trying to mimic his style too.
Even Gun’s underdeveloped characters are often rather deep and thought out. Rooker’s Caliban from the suicide squad. For a disposable fakeout opening character. Following along with him at the start you get to know a bit about him just watching. Kind of like him a bit even. Then boom! Chum in the waters.
I haven’t watched the new season of Peacemaker. But if he can handle anti-heros like he did with season 1. I think Supergirl of in good hands.
This will certainly silence all the people who were complaining about Supergirl in the new Superman movie. /s
Who gives a fuck what those morons think?
People had a lot of shit to say about the superman movie trailer too, but it was a really good movie that had more emotional impact than the last 10 marvel movies put together.
Im inclined to let them run here, no matter how superficial it looks at first glance.
Honestly I was kind of let down by Superman, considering how much people hyped it up. The first two acts were interesting and had me hooked, but the ending just felt a little flat to me. It definitely felt like a “hold on, we’re just getting started” movie rather than something standalone.
I wasn’t especially fond of the characterization of Clark’s parents, but I think that’s just a personal preference and being used to other interpretations (Smallville, DCAU, etc). I do think they worked very well with the tone of the movie.
It also didn’t feel particularly dissimilar to most Marvel movies, just with a little better tone and planning.
A matter of taste of course but I actually loved them… I hated the Barbie and Ken portrait for red neck farmers… these ones felt like more real “people of the land”
I specially liked the part of his Dad who seemed so physically vulnerable and weakened by age/work/illness giving the biggest emotional push to a figurative Man of Steel
Yeah, and a lot of depictions of the Kent farm have a very Norman Rockwell vibe, with a large two story house, a huge barn/silo, and acres of land. It’s very iconic, but also hasn’t been the reality for American farmers for at least 50 years. In this movie, the relatively small plot of land and cramped Ranch house felt much more plausible for modern-day Kents.
… Barbie and Ken? What does that even mean in this context? Just physical appearance, or something more?
I honestly didn’t even consider physical appearance, if that’s what you mean. I meant the more simplistic approach to their personality. They were particularly one-note, able to offer a simple home and philosophy, but not much more. It feels very much like they were only meant for one or two scenes and are never meant to be seen again.
Yes they often played by pretty city people
They WERE in a scene or two… they were intended to provide a “back to centre” anchor for Superman/Clark, they were not main even supporting cast
“City People”? Is there a particular look you mean by this?
Right, they weren’t especially important to the plot except one or two scenes. And don’t really have the emphasis that they’ll be particularly important in the future, which is contrary to past incarnations. Like I said, they worked for this movie… but, especially considering the “But wait… there’s more” feeling of the movie, and that it’s meant as the start of a new franchise… they feel flat and rather unimportant. Which felt disappointing.
yes…
Kevin Costner
for example; or these 2 
Regarding your second paragraph, I see your point. I did not really think Clark parents will have much to do in the future (they honestly have not even in the better developed and much longer animated movies). They are just (usually) moral anchor for the early years of Superman and sometimes the “escape from the city life”… I would not expect them to feature in the future films
I was fine with Clark’s parents, but bothered that they met Lois for the first time, she stayed overnight, and we got virtually no interaction. Definitely one of the spots where I’d have liked to see some of the screen time given to overlong action scenes or the Justice Whatever reallocated to Superman’s supporting cast. I did like the movie overall, though.
Imo it felt like Gunn’s DC version of GoTG. He has a formula and hasn’t strayed from it in the last 10 or so years; it’s starting to get really old imo.
It’s not helping that everyone seems to be trying to mimic his style too.
Last 10 Marvel movies except for GOTG 3 by the same author.
GOTG 3 was brutally raw
Theres a third one??
It’s worth watching just for the hallway fight!
Sounds intriguing. I’ll have to see if I can watch it. For some reason I haven’t really been interested in new movies for a long time now
It’s really good, but be warned - it’s dark. There’s a lot of The Island of Doctor Moreau in it.
I’ll have to look that up
Good point. That had heart, as usual.
Even Gun’s underdeveloped characters are often rather deep and thought out. Rooker’s Caliban from the suicide squad. For a disposable fakeout opening character. Following along with him at the start you get to know a bit about him just watching. Kind of like him a bit even. Then boom! Chum in the waters.
I haven’t watched the new season of Peacemaker. But if he can handle anti-heros like he did with season 1. I think Supergirl of in good hands.
Season 2 of Peacemaker is bonkers.
One was a wild enough ride. It’s a self. If two somehow managed to be bonkers on top of already bonkers, then it aught to be epic.
It’s good but the ending kinda fizzles out, I loved the show and hyped it up constantly, I prob wont rewatch after that ending.