The Cyberpunk 2077 announcement trailer was barely even a trailer. Just a moving jpeg of a woman with swords coming out of her arms.
Elder Scrolls 6’s announcement trailer was literally just a super quick flyover of some landscape then a title card.
Don’t suddenly start acting like it’s this huge problematic practice when it’s literally how every piece of media uses announcement trailers - hell, even books will have announcement trailers extremely similar in style to this.
Don’t suddenly start acting like it’s this huge problematic practice when it’s literally how every piece of media uses announcement trailers
You’re literally using the exact same logic here, again. We can again distill the argument and these examples as, “everyone does it so it’s not a bad thing”.
Secondly, it doesn’t have to be a “problem”, sure, but it’s not a good representation of what to expect. Nobody’s saying it’s a “huge problematic practice”. It’s just annoying. The best trailers to me are just… gameplay. Anything else would be a teaser.
Thirdly, it’s not really “suddenly”. It’s been like this for a long time and I haven’t ever liked it. It’s just the first time you’re hearing me say it.
Fourth…ly? One is allowed to feel like it is a problem, too, if that would indeed be how one felt about it. 👍
That’s why there are different kinds of trailers. You have announcement/teaser trailers, gameplay trailers, cinematic trailers (for showing cutscenes and story content), character trailers…
🤷♂️ I guess I’m only interested in certain types of trailers. And that’s the real argument right there, which is valid, that there are different kinds of trailers. That’s perfectly fine.
But my main gripe, regardless of the topic, is to say “everyone does it so it’s fine”. There are very few instances of that being a valid argument. I can think of linguistics as one example. 😄
Not to be pedantic, but your critique of the existence of an announcement trailer feels like walking into a pizza shop, ordering a pizza, then getting mad because you wanted a burger.
If you don’t like announcement teasers then don’t watch them and just wait for the reveal trailer to release?
It usually goes announcement -> teaser -> reveal -> the rest
“That’s kinda how announcement trailers usually go?” Isn’t an appeal to tradition or a moral preference statement, which you seem to interpreted it as… It was just questioning your expectations. They are simply pointing out that you judged the trailer for being something it was never expected to be.
Announcement trailers are non-committal by design - it’s the formal declaration of a project without making promises that are too early to make.
you judged the trailer for being something it was never expected to be
I didn’t do that. I simply judged the argument of “that’s usually what is done”. That’s not a good argument.
I don’t have much against the trailer itself, can we let that part go? I only here oppose the argument of “everybody does it”. That’s what I had an issue with from the start.
Always someone chiming in with this fallacy. “This is how everyone does it!” That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. 😕
The Cyberpunk 2077 announcement trailer was barely even a trailer. Just a moving jpeg of a woman with swords coming out of her arms.
Elder Scrolls 6’s announcement trailer was literally just a super quick flyover of some landscape then a title card.
Don’t suddenly start acting like it’s this huge problematic practice when it’s literally how every piece of media uses announcement trailers - hell, even books will have announcement trailers extremely similar in style to this.
You’re literally using the exact same logic here, again. We can again distill the argument and these examples as, “everyone does it so it’s not a bad thing”.
Secondly, it doesn’t have to be a “problem”, sure, but it’s not a good representation of what to expect. Nobody’s saying it’s a “huge problematic practice”. It’s just annoying. The best trailers to me are just… gameplay. Anything else would be a teaser.
Thirdly, it’s not really “suddenly”. It’s been like this for a long time and I haven’t ever liked it. It’s just the first time you’re hearing me say it.
Fourth…ly? One is allowed to feel like it is a problem, too, if that would indeed be how one felt about it. 👍
That’s why there are different kinds of trailers. You have announcement/teaser trailers, gameplay trailers, cinematic trailers (for showing cutscenes and story content), character trailers…
🤷♂️ I guess I’m only interested in certain types of trailers. And that’s the real argument right there, which is valid, that there are different kinds of trailers. That’s perfectly fine.
But my main gripe, regardless of the topic, is to say “everyone does it so it’s fine”. There are very few instances of that being a valid argument. I can think of linguistics as one example. 😄
Not to be pedantic, but your critique of the existence of an announcement trailer feels like walking into a pizza shop, ordering a pizza, then getting mad because you wanted a burger.
If you don’t like announcement teasers then don’t watch them and just wait for the reveal trailer to release?
It usually goes announcement -> teaser -> reveal -> the rest
My critique is of the argumentative style of “everyone does it, so it’s fine”.
That’s it.
“That’s kinda how announcement trailers usually go?” Isn’t an appeal to tradition or a moral preference statement, which you seem to interpreted it as… It was just questioning your expectations. They are simply pointing out that you judged the trailer for being something it was never expected to be.
Announcement trailers are non-committal by design - it’s the formal declaration of a project without making promises that are too early to make.
I didn’t do that. I simply judged the argument of “that’s usually what is done”. That’s not a good argument.
I don’t have much against the trailer itself, can we let that part go? I only here oppose the argument of “everybody does it”. That’s what I had an issue with from the start.
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