- I have a seven year old nephew who I would like to find some computing activities that we could do together. Any ideas?
I do not recommend using a seven year old as a server for the following reasons.
- their parents will get mad
- the neighbors might call the police about all the children you have racked in your basement
- they have poor computing power, wait until they’re at least in their late teens (although software updates come too late and the system is usually very unstable at that time.)
- think of the smell! your house will smell like a kindergarten
- food costs are already high enough, add two or four growing kids to that budget and it’s far cheaper to run a couple Dell R610s every month.
overall, not worth it mate. good luck though!
OP, just wanted to say that involving your young nephew in constructive computer projects/activities is super cool. You get a Good Noodle star on your chart.
@irmadlad Thanks. I live a long way away amd only get to visit occasionally so as they get older the opportunity to do things together online is important to me.
the opportunity to do things together online is important to me
Respect
@irmadlad I’m not saying that I am actually achieving that … lol …
Wow I really appreciate the feedback. After quite a bit of changes and home moves that disrupted alot of what selfhosted stuff I setup, a bit of disallusionment with doing it alone and difficulty staying connected with my nephew remotely these give me some good ideas. I need to find out more about Minecraft and hosting a server sounds like a good idea, I liked the simple coding with audio feedback as well. Its motivating me to get messgaing and chat sorted out as well. I am also going to see if I can find some shared #Spanish #languagelearning tools.
I need to find out more about Minecraft and hosting a server sounds like a good idea
I’ve hosted both Minecraft and Luanti (free open source Minecraft). Either is a great idea!
That said, I found setting up a Luanti server slightly simpler (because no need for everyone to have a Microsoft account, and no Java dependencies to worry about): https://docs.luanti.org/for-server-hosts/setup/
Luanti has lots of options, but a good default choice is Mineclonia: https://content.luanti.org/packages/ryvnf/mineclonia/
@pinball_wizard With a Luanti server does every Minecraft player still need a Minecraft licence?
I’d argue home assistant with some smart LEDs and a few sensors would be great.
Having a bulb that let’s you know the outside temperature/weather when you’re getting dressed in the morning is neat. Having a dimming pattern for sleeping time. Tons of other really simple stuff available too.
@BlameThePeacock Yeah I think I will get some light switches and see if we can do some rouitines.
I don’t get why people continue to recommend Minecraft when there is the much better open-source Luanti project: https://www.luanti.org/
This is confusing. So, Luanti is basically a clone of Minecraft? The docs say how to download the basic platform, and then to download any game.
But where do you start? There’s no recommended or default game or world?
No, Luanti is a platform for Minecraft like games, like a place to find lots of user generated games and such, I guess Roblox is a bit similar to that (I never tried Roblox, so I am guessing). It is also fairly easy to make your own games with it.
There are however games for Luanti that are very similar to Minecraft such as Voxelibre and Minecloina.
Just be mindful of people online
@possiblylinux127 @poVoq Yeah at tis stage I’d like to have a closed environment for them.
That project looks pretty nice, I’ve seen it before. When I ran a MineCraft server, I was heavy into shaders, plugins, addons, etc. I would say that the draw to MineCraft is that there are just endless things to integrate, almost infinitely if you have the resources to run it. As heavy into MineCraft as I got, I’m pretty sure I didn’t even come close to exhausting it’s possibilities.
My kid is 9, and it’s all Minecraft and I just installed a non federated synapse server so they can text family without having to deal with parental controls. At that age, I figure it’s more about having fun, and if they learn typing skills on the way, big win
Hi how hard is it for a complete beginner to setup a nonfederated synapse server at hardware at home? I am looking for a FOSS solution for a selfhosted messenger for family and friends to stay away from the corporations and governments and people recommend mostly either xmpp or matrix but the guides seem too complicated( Can you share the guide(s) that you’ve followed?
@ewigkaiwelo @Tolookah Yunohost has an integrated xmpp server I think
A Minecraft server is the classic.
Don’t discount just putting together a basic webpage that can be accessed at home too- something he could put together in a basic HTML editor (drag and drop) and put his favorite things on or whatever he may be focusing on (cars, animals, space, you name it).
I definitely agree on a vanilla Minecraft server.
It’s really simple but you can go very deep in what you could do with it. Also it’s a game and brings a playful fun aspect into the technical world.
It’s pretty much how I started to learn everything about networking years ago.
Heimdall is a great self hosted start page
Hedy is an open source programming language that is broken into levels for easy learning. As you progress the language gains more capabilities, so they are never overwhelmed with too much
In contrast to block based languages like scratch its goal is to leave students ready to switch to Python by the end.
Each level has small tasks to complete so you can tackle it piece by piece and get a sense of progression.
@IanTwenty Hey this looks cool. Will see if he gets into it
I think educational activities work best once they have some application to someones life. So it’d be something within the realm of a 7yo. And it’s not fun unless there’s a sense of achievement every now and then, along with all the stuff to learn. So probably not too steep of a learning curve.
Sadly they discontinued Lego Mindstorms. I think robotics is a great hands-on topic. People can grasp what they’re currently doing, why they do it, and what it’s good for. It has a tactile aspect, so you’ll train dexterity as well and gently connect the physical realm with the maths.
But other than that, I bet there’s a lot of things you can try. Design a website (and deploy a small webserver). Maybe some easy to use photo gallery if they have a tablet or camera. Maybe a Wordpress for them to write a Blog? They should be familiar with the concept of a diary. Kids love Minecraft, so maybe a Luanti server if you’re into Free Software. But learn how to add NPCs and animals, that is (or used to be?) a complicated process in Luanti and the world feels boring and empty without. A chat server to their loved ones could motivate them to read and write text (messages). Or skip the selfhosting aspect and do the kids games available for Linux. Paint, LibreOffice…
I like the recommendations from other people as well. Sadly I don’t know which kids programming language works best. I think I heard you can just go straight for Python as well. Not sure if that’s true or what age group that applies to. It’s a bit more involved to learn the syntax and why you need brackets around certain things etc but at least they get to learn the real deal and something properly useful. 7 might be a bit young, though. And there might be a language barrier. But that applies to all the computer stuff behind the scenes, unless you’re a native English speaker.
Minecraft server. Then Pufferpanel, then modding. Tons to learn.
Put it in a VM for him and take snapshots for easy recovery.
HTML Website is cool. A child of that age might be able to write basic HTML. I wasn’t much older when I made my own site
Scratch, theres a foss alternative you can selfhost I think
Scratch isn’t FOSS? That sucks
That would be Snap!
don’t thinks the one I saw, mightve been a flathub app not a selfhosted thing
You can show them how to mod something they already play/like
Haha the one word he knows is #Minecraft so yeah it sounds like that will be task one. I can do that on a #Proxmox server I have.
You could also think about Lunati modding because it uses Lua for this, an easy-to-use programming language. https://docs.luanti.org/for-creators/creating-mods/








