TLDR: We rewrote the taskbar and didn’t bother implementing it.
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The amount of bullshit is incredible. The DE sets the windows position. The DE tells the apps what’s the “usable” desktop area. It worked for decades. And now “you can’t imagine the amount of work”
Fuck you microsoft. Not that I care anymore. Even your excuses are pathetic.
laughs in KDE
Quote from Microsoft…“You will be happy in your work!”. /s
So many people at work are having frustrating issues with Windows now.
It takes so fucking long to start up. Sure, you get a desktop and can open a program, but it just keeps locking up repeatedly for a good 20 minutes while whatever bloatware is running in the background during startup.
They cram OneDrive down your throat and it has constant issues.
They put so much shit in your way, in the name of “productivity” it makes your actual productivity worse.
FUCK COPILOT.
It’s the one drive cramming that really gets me, well also changing the right click context menu to hide cut and paste, wtf.
But seriously, not letting you move the Onedrive pin down the hotlinks sidebar out of the way? Extremely annoying.
I can’t move the Windows 11 taskbar because I’ve been running Linux for over 20 years. Recommended fix!
Yeah, KDE ftw
Linux is missing enterprise management tools. For all its horrible flaws, nothing like SCCM, In tune, group policy, and Active Directory (in the sense of managing group policy, not so much identity) exist for Linux. Fix that, even commercially, and you might see a real change.
They just don’t want you to customise your computer in any way, huh.
Soon you’d be prevented from changing your wallpaper.
They’ll only allow those generated using Copilot.
The whole explanation about screen size is telling.
The entire point of Windows being named Windows is that apps can run inside these resizable rectangles nicknamed windows.
Yet the rectangular taskbar is apparently impossible to handle…
It’s never been done before, and can never be done after, obviously. Not a chance. Nope. It’s not like it worked before, not like windows placement is not really the business of the taskbar app, not like it works with almost every other DE/OS, too.
Absolutely impossible. Microsoft, that apparently did not make windows up until now otherwise they’d know this explanation is pure bullshit, have absolutely no way, no resources, no knowledge on how to setup the available rectangular area on the screen for window placement. Nope.
Why would applications have to consider relayouting? Isn’t that entirely in the hand of the Windows taskbar?
It shows the window groups, windows, pops over previews of windows or tabs in a consistent style, presumably owned by the taskbar itself. At no point do applications themselves control their positions or size in the taskbar or the taskbar popovers.
Imagine letting your computer decide how you’re gonna use it 😖
Meanwhile KDE:
Put the taskbar wherever you want it’s even floating if there isn’t a window nearby.
Different design pressures. KDE knowing they put in the work to keep it versatile now, they will always have more options in the future.
Microsoft is basically admitting they have no future.
Can you have different taskbar setup depending on the number of monitors and have it change automatically when you connect/disconnect external monitors?
Yes, my work laptop has this with a 1, 2 or 3 monitor setup. It adapts as it detects the screens.
Yes! I’m not sure about it changing when you connect monitors (since I’m usually using desktop PCs), but you can have a different setup per monitor.
I have three monitors at work. My main monitor is configured to show all open apps in the taskbar, while the secondary monitors only show the apps opened on those monitors. You can totally change any of the configuration though… the layout, the position, the settings, or even just not have a taskbar on some monitors.
I was briefly a star at work when all of the terminals updated to Win 11. I was the only dude that knew how to move the start button back to the lower left corner.
the reason is literally “because we decided not to implement it”
Saved you a click.
I’m one of the few who has had it at the top for as long as I can remember. It absolutely infuriated me to find out the feature had been removed.
Im more of a left-side guy, but i share your pain
Apps then need to constantly reflow their layouts, resize content, adjust snapping behavior, and handle edge cases across different screen sizes, DPI settings, and multi-monitor setups. Also, this reflow logic has to work perfectly for legacy Win32 apps, modern UWP apps, and everything in between.
You mean the apps that were already handling this for decades when windows wasn’t a vibe-coded and ad-infested vehicle for AI slop?
Yeah this doesn’t make sense. Docked bars have worked fine since Windows 95. You could have the task bar on any side, and apps would handle it. You could have multiple docked bars too, as some third-party apps used to be dockable. For example, Winamp had a view that was a short bar stretching the entire width of the screen, stuck to the top of the screen. The windowing system handled it with no issues.
