For awhile it was single downvotes, but it seems that moved up to 2-3 on each comment. Even the most benign stuff gets hit, the pattern is clear.

Can I find this person and block them from seeing my posts? Never really delved into how lemmy works.

Probably doesn’t matter much because after awhile the forget and leave me alone for a bit.

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    Is it because of that time you were defending pedophilia and regurgitating MAP talking points?

    EDIT: or maybe it’s the constant repulsive content that has resulted in pages, and pages, and pages of mod actions for years? For things such as: racism, transphobia, actual antisemitism, advocating violence, racism again, and look…

    pedophile apologia again…

    Man… I wonder why people would downvote you… it’s a a real headscratcher.

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      I’m not seeing that, pedophilia is a condition and the user was responding in earnest to a comment asking “why?”. I personally would not conflate this with defending child molesters

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      Nothing about that comments comes across as defending it. Also, pedophilia is not synonymous with sexual abuse.

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      I mean it’s a shitty take and really doesn’t evidence good understanding of the topic (I used to work forensic psych and have met a LOT of pedophiles) but as far as shitty internet takes go it’s meh at most and wild to me that you went to the effort to dig that out from two weeks ago for this discussion.

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        There were a few pedo defenders in that thread (see the other user that got fully banned for doubling down over and over again). I tagged the profiles making excuses for pedos which is why I knew who OP was (roughly).

        Just kinda feel like people who try to equate pedophiles as part of the queer community are probably shitty people. And probably have shitty takes… and looks like they have a lot of shitty takes. So much that theyre whining about getting downvoted.

        I mean, Jesus, just look at their modlog… banned for pedo apologia, actual antisemitism, civility, etc etc etc. Pages of mod actions…

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        I’ll ask you the same, do you believe people choose their attractions? Be very careful in your answer. If you say yes, then LGBT is a choice.

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          Most offenders I’ve interacted with have no specific attraction to children at all. They want to rape someone and children just happen to make ideal victims by being smaller and weaker and depending on age and upbringing may not even realize a crime had occurred or be able to advocate for themselves. Most of the offenders would have / often had also raped the elderly or disabled if given the chance. They would even attempt to prey on the smaller or weaker staff members or other patients if given the opportunity.

          There were a few edge cases of profoundly psychotic / ID patients who genuinely just didn’t know any better but again it was rarely a specific attraction and more of an overall disinhibition, they would generally also have trespassing, petty theft, and property damage charges and were showing their genitals to just about anyone. Violent and sexual intrusive thoughts can be a part of some OCD presentations but the thoughts usually go away when the underlying anxiety is treated with medication and behavioral therapy. Pts with violent and sexual intrusive thoughts also pretty much never offend, to the extent that I never really interacted with that population until after leaving forensics. They’re a super high suicide risk though due to not understanding the actual psychological mechanism of the thoughts (self-reinforcing through anxiety, not attraction).

          I’m not saying attraction to children doesn’t exist, but when we’re taking about the actual issue of child sexual assault it’s just an unproductive line of discussion that relates very little to the actual core issues. The “can’t help being attracted” is mostly pop-psychology TV shows use to tell a more emotionally charged story.

          Now that said, we do have a huge issue as a society with allowing the high of righteous fury to interfere with victims actually receiving justice. Those accused have just as much of a right to due process as anyone accused of any other crime. Interfering with that right either creates massive overreach by the legal system or in individual cases damages evidence that would be used to fairly prosecute an offender. It also creates a social environment where people protect their offending loved ones out of fear for them, when they should feel secure in the knowledge that while they will probably always love the offender, they can and will be safely separated from the rest of society (or at least be forced to live under monitoring and away from possible victims) for the rest of their natural life.

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          And you are questioning multiple downvotes while making comments like this. Maybe its because you have shit takes

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          I think the point is that she was a child rapist, not necessarily a pedophile.

          Some child rapists rape children because of the power imbalance etc., not necessarily out of physical, sexual, or romantic attraction.

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            hmmm, I didn’t know that. I figured it was always sexual attraction brought on by pedophilia… cheers

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          Pretty crazy take to voice in a thread about a child-raping teacher…no? Whether a person is sexually attracted to children or not, they should not rape them, and especially not if they are in a profession with in loco parentis legal responsibility?

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      So, your argument is that

      explanation = approval

      ? That pathetically superficial take pretty much amounts to media illiteracy[1]: see fallacy Confusing an Explanation with an Excuse.

      Can anyone factually explain atrocities in your presence without you treating any explanation as a defense even when it’s explicitly stated that the explained subject is immoral?

      They answered the question & your not liking the answer doesn’t make it less true. There are better ways to deal with facts than insufferable irrationality.


      1. @JUNlPER
        this is always one that gets me. so many people are unable to realize that you can present characters doing something bad without endorsing it. not sure when this kind of baby brained thing started but its so silly to see so often

        @ducktales2020
        more than anything they conflate Presenting Something with Agreeing With Something, but don’t apply it to good guy/bad guy narratives. when everyone’s bad they short circuit

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      I have no clue what MAP is, but can you point to the words that hurt you?

      We don’t get to choose who and what we are attracted to. 🤷🏻‍♂️ However, that does not absolve one of immoral actions.

      Or do you believe attraction is a choice? You believe people have a choice to be gay or trans? You can’t have it both ways. Pick. One.

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        You believe people have a choice to be gay or trans?

        From a policy and human rights point of view, it’s irrelevant whether it’s a choice or predetermined.

        Anecdotally, I have friends whose sexuality sure looks like it was arrived at by a process that included an element of choice. And if that’s the case, it’s still just as legitimate an identity as if it were inborn.

        This might cause discomfort because it could send fascists the message that they could bully queer people into being straight. But they’re going to bully queer people regardless of whether it’s a choice.