For awhile it was single downvotes, but it seems that moved up to 2-3 on each comment. Even the most benign stuff gets hit, the pattern is clear.

Can I find this person and block them from seeing my posts? Never really delved into how lemmy works.

Probably doesn’t matter much because after awhile the forget and leave me alone for a bit.

  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    4·
    22 hours ago

    With all the cranks on here, downvotes are a sign of doing something right. Some instances hide downvotes entirely. Others offer settings to not show them.

    Not sure blocking them affects the downvote count shown to you.

  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
    202·
    1 day ago

    You can discover who is doing it with Lemvotes

    But no, you can’t block them. Here in the real world (as opposed to the dystopian centralized platforms that have largely supplanted public discourse), it is not possible to isolate a specific individual and deny them access to information provided freely to the rest of the general public.

    Should their public engagement rise to the level of harassment, there are legal options you can take to compel their restraint. But downvoting everything you do does not rise to such a level.

    • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
      462·
      2 days ago

      Looks like a normal short term lemmy fight, someone didn’t like what they said in a thread and opened their history and downvoted everything on the first screen. Going back 3 days and the downvotes stop.

      lemmy.world appears to be their main account, this seems to be the post that triggered them do do their downvoting spree: https://lemmy.world/post/41260627

      Looks like the sock puppet master was angry for about 20 minutes, and got tired of manually downvoting. Still pretty terrible vote manipulation making lemmy a hostile place.

      @[email protected]

      • Username@lemmy.nz
        21·
        2 days ago

        I think on the original offending post, OP made some somewhat inflammatory comments about ADHD and Autism further down. I imagine the downvoter felt personally hurt by these comments, hence the temporary spree, driven mostly by emotion. I don’t agree with the vote manipulation but not knowing their full story I would caution against people coming across this and retaliating against this person. It seems like it was just a short response and hopefully they have had a chance to cool off now.

          • CoyoteFacts@piefed.caEnglish
            121·
            2 days ago

            It’s 2 years old, as opposed to the sock puppet ones which are 4 months old. It’s voting the same way as the other 3 also. I guess it doesn’t really matter which is the main, just thought I’d add it regardless since it wasn’t mentioned.

            • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
              8·
              2 days ago

              I’ve looked at the voting patterns and I can’t establish the link you mentioned, the falsewhite accounts are obviously alts/sockpuppets of each other, that is all I can say

              43 downvotes across 2 minutes but at a 4 hours earlier then the other downvoting falsewhite accounts.

              • CoyoteFacts@piefed.caEnglish
                112·
                2 days ago

                All targeting the same person as the other 3 accounts, 4 hours apart? That’s quite a coincidence if it’s not the same person. My guess is they first went through with their main account, then decided to do the same later with their other accounts. Either way, it’s the exact same behavior as the others, so it’s worth calling out in the exact same way.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      296·
      2 days ago

      Neat! Don’t think I have the energy to do much about it, but that’s a great site, thank you very much!

      • porcoesphino@mander.xyz
        151·
        2 days ago

        For anyone else wondering:

        Divisions by zero lemmy.dbzer0.com

        Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights, Do Maths

        Communities about Anarchism, Generative Al, Copylefts, Neurodivergence, Filesharing, and Free Software. (And Math!) Follow the Anarchist Code of Conduct and honor the Disengage Rule. Don’t be shitty to each other. Keep it SFW. Obey the spirit of The Golden Rules. Fuck around and find out.

        • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.todayEnglish
          28·
          2 days ago

          Yeah… there are a couple of toxic peeps I found from DB0, but I think it might work regardless. I could take a look and see.

          Edit: Taking a look at the sight, it’s really good looking. Too bad their CoC is a thing, as that’s going to cause a lot of problems. Any CoC is bad for a community, and is how you do ethical source software, which I’m wholly against.

            • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.todayEnglish
              63·
              2 days ago

              Basically, a CoC can be the opposite of what it intended to be, as it can be weaponized by people who want to start problems in a community. They can be vague, punishment can be selective, and they can be confusing messes. I tried to find something on how CoC’s are destructive in this manner, but I don’t recall what it was.

              • Unrefined@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                6·
                1 day ago

                What specifically about the CoC will cause issues? Can you provide examples or specific concerns? Your comments aren’t making a lot of sense in the context of OP.

                • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.todayEnglish
                  11·
                  1 day ago

                  I was essentially commenting on a separate comment, not OP’s post in particular.

                  As for concerns about the CoC, people can read the CoC and learn how to bend the rules so as to get people in trouble. That was my huge red flag if there was a CoC.

  • pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org
    148·
    1 day ago

    I’m going to say - get over it.

    This is not Reddit, where downvoting would actually prevent you from posting.

    This is the Fediverse, where, you can keep going. Who gives a fuck?

    The whinier you are about being downvoted, the more I think you deserve it. Just like anyone who I’ve come across who has amassed a lot of upvotes, turned out to be the biggest assholes I’ve come across.

    • Aeao@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 hours ago

      I had a Reddit account get to the special place for people who got over 100,000 upvotes. The sub was full of assholes.

      Also I’m an asshole so you’re theory checks out.

      • pyrinix@kbin.melroy.org
        1·
        3 hours ago

        I remembered being randomly gilded and you got to go into that special subreddit for gilded users. Same deal.

        • Aeao@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 hours ago

          Yeah I never had to pay for Reddit because I got gold for my comments.

          Which were normally something sarcastic.

          It’s kinda like the algorithm for social media. What gets engagement? Bad shit.

          So if you get a group together who is good at that… you’re kinda surrounded by broken people lol

    • SailorFuzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
      244·
      1 day ago

      The whinier you are about being downvoted, the more I think you deserve it.

      I would argue that his massive history and modlogs of him being a shitty person with inflammatory comments and toxic takes are why he deserves it. It should be obvious that after two years of mod corrective actions for egregious behavior he’s not going to change.

      Him doing the “oh, woe is me” act here feels pretty hollow.

  • Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
    105·
    1 day ago

    To prove you wrong I down voted this post and I don’t remember any interactions with you in the past.

    • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
      105·
      2 days ago

      I think OP is right to be concerned, because while we don’t have karma like reddit (thank god), supposing someome was browsing old posts in a comm[unity] they might utilise the “Top of all time” filter or even the “most controversial of all time” filter - if our OP here makes a particularly useful post, e.g about a tech support issue - then I’m pretty sure having extra downvotes will actually reduce the reach and visibility of the post, using these filters.

      Also in this case it was just useful because it exposes someone acting in bad faith on the fed.

      • Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
        71·
        2 days ago

        But all of this does nothing about the value, or quality, of OP’s posts.

        It tells only about the BULLSHIT VALUE of things like a “Top of all time” filter or terms like “controversial”.

        • Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          42·
          2 days ago

          It’s about the findability of the post and correctness of votes. A serial downvoter will diminish both, creating a disconnect between the real quality and the perceived quality.

          No those three votes probably won’t make a big difference, but it’s a real problem if this becomes commonplace

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
        513·
        2 days ago

        Up/down voting should just be removed. It does nothing, means nothing and only causes people to bitch. It’s annoying.

        I question the sanity of anyone who gives even half a fuck about fake internet points.

        • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          1 day ago

          It does nothing

          It helps sort content for visibility. Unless you browse Lemmy ONLY by new, you’re benefiting from the voting system. That includes posts AND comments

    • Perspectivist@feddit.uk
      31·
      2 days ago

      I’ve had posts with hundreds of upvotes and one or two downvotes. It’s interesting to contact the downvoters via PM. Not in an accusatory tone but with curiosity.

  • Ech@lemmy.ca
    30·
    2 days ago

    Blocking a user only stops you from seeing them, not the other way around. They can still interact with your posts.

  • SailorFuzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2813·
    1 day ago

    Is it because of that time you were defending pedophilia and regurgitating MAP talking points?

    EDIT: or maybe it’s the constant repulsive content that has resulted in pages, and pages, and pages of mod actions for years? For things such as: racism, transphobia, actual antisemitism, advocating violence, racism again, and look…

    pedophile apologia again…

    Man… I wonder why people would downvote you… it’s a a real headscratcher.

    • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
      142·
      1 day ago

      I’m not seeing that, pedophilia is a condition and the user was responding in earnest to a comment asking “why?”. I personally would not conflate this with defending child molesters

    • Perspectivist@feddit.uk
      162·
      2 days ago

      Nothing about that comments comes across as defending it. Also, pedophilia is not synonymous with sexual abuse.

    • Apytele@sh.itjust.works
      18·
      2 days ago

      I mean it’s a shitty take and really doesn’t evidence good understanding of the topic (I used to work forensic psych and have met a LOT of pedophiles) but as far as shitty internet takes go it’s meh at most and wild to me that you went to the effort to dig that out from two weeks ago for this discussion.

      • SailorFuzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
        72·
        1 day ago

        There were a few pedo defenders in that thread (see the other user that got fully banned for doubling down over and over again). I tagged the profiles making excuses for pedos which is why I knew who OP was (roughly).

        Just kinda feel like people who try to equate pedophiles as part of the queer community are probably shitty people. And probably have shitty takes… and looks like they have a lot of shitty takes. So much that theyre whining about getting downvoted.

        I mean, Jesus, just look at their modlog… banned for pedo apologia, actual antisemitism, civility, etc etc etc. Pages of mod actions…

      • shalafi@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        1238·
        2 days ago

        I’ll ask you the same, do you believe people choose their attractions? Be very careful in your answer. If you say yes, then LGBT is a choice.

        • Apytele@sh.itjust.works
          261·
          2 days ago

          Most offenders I’ve interacted with have no specific attraction to children at all. They want to rape someone and children just happen to make ideal victims by being smaller and weaker and depending on age and upbringing may not even realize a crime had occurred or be able to advocate for themselves. Most of the offenders would have / often had also raped the elderly or disabled if given the chance. They would even attempt to prey on the smaller or weaker staff members or other patients if given the opportunity.

          There were a few edge cases of profoundly psychotic / ID patients who genuinely just didn’t know any better but again it was rarely a specific attraction and more of an overall disinhibition, they would generally also have trespassing, petty theft, and property damage charges and were showing their genitals to just about anyone. Violent and sexual intrusive thoughts can be a part of some OCD presentations but the thoughts usually go away when the underlying anxiety is treated with medication and behavioral therapy. Pts with violent and sexual intrusive thoughts also pretty much never offend, to the extent that I never really interacted with that population until after leaving forensics. They’re a super high suicide risk though due to not understanding the actual psychological mechanism of the thoughts (self-reinforcing through anxiety, not attraction).

          I’m not saying attraction to children doesn’t exist, but when we’re taking about the actual issue of child sexual assault it’s just an unproductive line of discussion that relates very little to the actual core issues. The “can’t help being attracted” is mostly pop-psychology TV shows use to tell a more emotionally charged story.

          Now that said, we do have a huge issue as a society with allowing the high of righteous fury to interfere with victims actually receiving justice. Those accused have just as much of a right to due process as anyone accused of any other crime. Interfering with that right either creates massive overreach by the legal system or in individual cases damages evidence that would be used to fairly prosecute an offender. It also creates a social environment where people protect their offending loved ones out of fear for them, when they should feel secure in the knowledge that while they will probably always love the offender, they can and will be safely separated from the rest of society (or at least be forced to live under monitoring and away from possible victims) for the rest of their natural life.

        • GodlessCommie@lemmy.worldEnglish
          194·
          2 days ago

          And you are questioning multiple downvotes while making comments like this. Maybe its because you have shit takes

        • otp@sh.itjust.works
          11·
          2 days ago

          I think the point is that she was a child rapist, not necessarily a pedophile.

          Some child rapists rape children because of the power imbalance etc., not necessarily out of physical, sexual, or romantic attraction.

          • Hadriscus@jlai.lu
            5·
            1 day ago

            hmmm, I didn’t know that. I figured it was always sexual attraction brought on by pedophilia… cheers

        • dditty@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          8·
          2 days ago

          Pretty crazy take to voice in a thread about a child-raping teacher…no? Whether a person is sexually attracted to children or not, they should not rape them, and especially not if they are in a profession with in loco parentis legal responsibility?

    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
      22·
      24 hours ago

      So, your argument is that

      explanation = approval

      ? That pathetically superficial take pretty much amounts to media illiteracy[1]: see fallacy Confusing an Explanation with an Excuse.

      Can anyone factually explain atrocities in your presence without you treating any explanation as a defense even when it’s explicitly stated that the explained subject is immoral?

      They answered the question & your not liking the answer doesn’t make it less true. There are better ways to deal with facts than insufferable irrationality.

      1. @JUNlPER
        this is always one that gets me. so many people are unable to realize that you can present characters doing something bad without endorsing it. not sure when this kind of baby brained thing started but its so silly to see so often

        @ducktales2020
        more than anything they conflate Presenting Something with Agreeing With Something, but don’t apply it to good guy/bad guy narratives. when everyone’s bad they short circuit

        ↩︎
    • shalafi@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1520·
      2 days ago

      I have no clue what MAP is, but can you point to the words that hurt you?

      We don’t get to choose who and what we are attracted to. 🤷🏻‍♂️ However, that does not absolve one of immoral actions.

      Or do you believe attraction is a choice? You believe people have a choice to be gay or trans? You can’t have it both ways. Pick. One.

      • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
        1·
        10 hours ago

        You believe people have a choice to be gay or trans?

        From a policy and human rights point of view, it’s irrelevant whether it’s a choice or predetermined.

        Anecdotally, I have friends whose sexuality sure looks like it was arrived at by a process that included an element of choice. And if that’s the case, it’s still just as legitimate an identity as if it were inborn.

        This might cause discomfort because it could send fascists the message that they could bully queer people into being straight. But they’re going to bully queer people regardless of whether it’s a choice.

  • Perspectivist@feddit.uk
    126·
    2 days ago

    I highly recommend going into settings and hiding downvotes from yourself. Stick to dealing with the people who at least bother to engage in written form.

    Downvoting is lazy and adds zero value. It’s pure masochism to let yourself get even a tiny bit annoyed just because some rando on the other side of the world spent 0.5 seconds clicking a down arrow on your comment - which they probably didn’t even read to the end.

  • slothrop@lemmy.caEnglish
    132·
    2 days ago

    So you’re saying falseWhite and krimsom are a stalker!
    Very sad and pathetic.

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
      155·
      2 days ago

      FalseWhite is a serial vote manipulator, so… Yeah. Dude’s not even trying to hide; all the accounts they use to vote multiple times on posts use the same exact name.

      Though, OP is also a pedophile/defender of pedophiles, so I mean… They’re gonna get downvoted by anyone who knows who they are just for that. 🤷‍♂️

    • crank0271@lemmy.worldEnglish
      182·
      2 days ago

      falseWhite mass downvotes from accounts on at least three instances that I’ve seen. There are several others that I’ve noticed, but it hasn’t bothered me enough to look into it beyond that. I figure eventually these accounts will get banned for something or other, and it isn’t worth that much time or space in my head.