With agentic AI embedded at the OS level, databases storing entire digital lives accessible to malware, tasks whose reliability quickly breaks down at each step, and being opted-in without consent, Signal leadership is sounding the alarm for the industry to pull back until threats can be mitigated.
  • Sanctus@anarchist.nexusEnglish
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    12 minutes ago

    Yeah? And why should some wagie care that his corp gets hacked through the agent? Or that Microft is watching? This is true but its not an angle to get at anything with because the country where this is being mass produced has an apathetic population

  • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    2 hours ago

    Yes and no.

    At its very core? “Agentic AI” is about the idea of having a bunch of different “agents” communicate with one another in a network with defined(-ish) communication pathways. This is an “agent network”. And if that sounds like microservices/task graphs/how every fucking app works then… you win the No-Prize!!

    And, in that regard, it isn’t any difficult. This service has access to that database. It always has. Hell, this service might still have zero “AI” in it but count as an “agent” for marketing purposes. If the credentials are checked and passed in an appropriate and authorized way, it is as safe as it ever has been. Which… is a different depressing discussion.

    The issue comes into play when you are looking at people rapidly rewriting existing infrastructure just to say they did. And doing so with generative AI that they fundamentally can’t vet (even if they wanted to). THAT is how you break things and THAT is how you introduce new CVEs.

    The issue isn’t that you have this data stored in a SQL table that is accessed by that service which was pre-seeded with credentials in a secure way. The issue is that you have no rewritten both that service and the SQL server in a way that “optimized” things by removing that costly security check.

    • Slotos@feddit.nlEnglish
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      32 minutes ago

      The windows have all the modern anti-burglary features and the plumbing is immaculate

      — excerpt from a sale advert for a house with its front wall missing and the living room exposed to the elements

    • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      2 hours ago

      Hell, this service might still have zero “AI” in it but count as an “agent” for marketing purposes.

      True. I do think that’s where we might find something useful after the bubble pops.

      But it’s some shit marketing though.

      “Microservices, but sometimes it hallucinates.” is a sales pitch targeted for gullible suckers.

    • chirospasm@lemmy.mlEnglish
      61·
      2 hours ago

      Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted, but you’ve got a solid pulse on the issue, here.

    • huquad@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      49 minutes ago

      You never let your enemy know when they’re making a mistake, or several dozen

  • pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipEnglish
    61·
    2 hours ago

    I’ve wiped better ideas off of the used shoes of an old bash profile than the average agentic AI solution.