I asked him “what color were the clouds back then?” and he said they were white. I asked him what happens if I take an orange light and light up something that’s white with it. He ignored me. He went on about how everyone in his age group remembers the Sun being orange, and by me questioning him, I’m calling him and all his peers liars and I’m stupid because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.

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    While the conclusion of it being replaced with an LED is obviously not what happened, I think it’s very possible that the sun was often orange for him when he was growing up, because of air pollution.

    30 years ago, depending on where you lived, there were more cars on the road with less efficient fuel consumption, more people using fireplaces, more people burning trash, less regulation of various industries etc. Searching for images with the phrase “smoke pollution sun” will give you a lot of photos of orange suns, and they’re definitely not all altered for effect. I’ve seen red suns in real life too when wildfires are really bad near my area even though that’s thankfully rare.

    We know not the sun itself that is orange, but in a polluted environment it certainly looks like it is - and if you don’t get a great education, I can see how you might think that’s the actual color of the sun.

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      30+ years ago skies used to be silver in cities from smog. Going across the mountains into Los Angeles could be like going to a different planet.

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    but got replaced with a white LED.

    time to find a new friend.

    there’s no point when someone believes that. move on.

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    I’m going to take a different stance to a lot of the posters here.

    Your friend may be showing signs of undiagnosed mental illness.

    If you value him, listen to him and confront him when he has broken away from reality. But don’t argue with him. Be firm in your disagreements but don’t argue.

    Be supportive of him if you can. Make sure he has a support network (parents siblings others)

    Sometimes mental illness does not manifest until early adulthood.

    Know your limits. Care for yourself.

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    I’ve been on this rock for more than 30 years. I can assure you we’ve never had orange clouds. I will say sunrise and sunset do some wild things and you see some really cool colors.

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    Replaced?! 😂

    Your friend is beyond repair. Cut your losses.

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    That’s … uh … that’s one hell of a LED. Who installed it? From where was this colossal diode purchased? Just, y’know, given the sun has 99.99% of the mass in the solar system, it would’ve taken quite the team. Ask him if it was illegal immigrants, ‘terking the jerb’ of galactic stupidity away from him and his peer group!

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    White LEDs are categorically not 30 year old tech, even if the rest of this theory wasn’t gunpowder caliber guano.

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    sun… LED…

    Yeah your friend is an absolute idiot and should ask for his money back from his elementary school

    The sun has been around for billions of years and pretty much hasn’t changed color since. Thinking you can “replace” the sun’s “LED” makes me wonder if he is experiencing mental illness, honestly

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    Yes. If the sun was orange, the light would be orange, and everything white would be orange.

    The fact that your friend believes the sun was replaced by a giant LED is a sign they should not be your friend anymore

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        No. I know people like this irl.

        Not the exact belief, but insane nonetheless. Usually they get all their news from fb and xitter. And theyre always smarter than scientists despite not finishing hs or college (not that one needs to do those things to be smart, but just saying as a rule…)

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          No, there’s actual people like that. The guy I mentioned in my comment came into work one day, claiming that the moon makes its own light. I once asked him if he had heard of the Stargate series. He paused, looked me dead in the eye, and said, super seriously, “yes and Stargates are real.”

          There are people that honestly believe this shit. The only thing is now they have the internet to convince each other that it’s all real.

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            Well they are real, they used them in the series.

            They don’t make you teleport though, that’s just special effects.

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            Has he written his congresspeople about the need to increase defense spending because of the threat of the Goa’uld?

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            The nature of reality is such that you can believe a very silly thing and have it impact your life in no meaningful way. People have been wrong about the nature of the universe for millennia and continued to get by. The oddball who believes in native moonlight and stargates isn’t going to benefit tangibly for being correct or suffer tangibly for his misbelief. In many cases - thanks to the proliferation of internet subcommunity echo-chambers - they may actually suffer (socially) for reconciling their beliefs with reality if they can’t bring their friends along for the ride.

            But, again, when they have extremely limited influence over their surroundings (this guy is not, presumably, running an astronomy lab or charged with funding improvements to municipal mass transit) their zany beliefs don’t really matter. Correctness doesn’t benefit them and incorrectness is more fun.

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            Ok but hear me out. I get laughed at for this, but I do think the moon is pretty hollow. The Apollo astronauts are on record saying it rang like a bell when they landed on it.

            I dont think its that crazy that the moon is very cavernous and hollow compared to earth. Now, aliens dont live inside it I dont think, but thats another theory haha!

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              it wasn’t a “landing” they crashed their lander into the moon to measure seismic data. They basically did an orbital strike with a bus. It vibrated for a long time because there isn’t much to dampen the vibration when most of the surface is hard rock with no moisture.

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      It’s likely this isn’t the only conspiracy theory he believes in. Time for you to find better friends,.

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      They didn’t replace the sun that would be impossible

      They replaced the sky which obviously uses LED imagine trying to run a panel of halogens that big