• presoak@lazysoci.alOP
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      There’s a narrowness, a deludedness, that tends to come with experthood. I prefer the wideness

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    Are we talking to them for entertainment or information? Because it might be more fun to hear a flat earther try to explain their beliefs, but you probably wouldn’t want to adopt those beliefs.

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      A flat earther who did the math. Set up the experiment and measured the tangential angles of light rays or whatever. Worries about the hundred ways he may have fucked up his calculations.

      A round earther who googled it. Knows with certainty. Knows what all smart people know to be obviously true.

      Well you see my point.

      Also, focus is a powerful and funny thing. You could hide an elephant in the room if you are focused on the tv. It’s a kind of useful insanity

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        You’ve changed the comparison from your post. A round earther who googled it, is not a focused and passionate expert. They googled why the Earth is round and accepted it. A focused and passionate expert by nature of being an expert can do all the calculations that actually work and prove the Earth is round (nevermind the fact we’ve seen it from space at this point). Those focused and passionate experts are exactly the interesting people you want to talk to, because they intimately understand what they’re experts on and can go on and on about it in detail.

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          You’ve changed…

          I was offering a completely different point, to rhynoplaz there.

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              Well I stated that I think the opposite clearly enough.

              I appreciate the depth but ya. Wideness

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            If you have a point, make it.

            If being snarky and defensive is your only reaction when someone questions your statement, then you probably didn’t have a point to make.

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              Ok fine.

              The first guy is smart. The second guy is dumb.

              Your non-understanding is either intentional or unintentional. Both look like a miserable slog to me.

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                See? That’s why I asked.

                You described someone who was trying really hard to do everything wrong, and refused to believe it when he confirmed he was wrong. That guy is much more stupid than someone who easily finds answers that have been calculated centuries ago.

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                  So are you saying that someone who knew what they where doing 5k years ago and almost perfectly calculated the circumference of the earth knows more about the shape of the earth than what I see on the horizon and all of my scientifically illiterate calculations??? Seems improbable.

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    I’d rather talk to the boring subject matter expert then the enthusiastic non subject matter expert

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    I might not be that smart, but I will never find easily disprovable stupidity to be more entertaining than dry, factual passion.

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    Huh, that’s certainly a take. Personally, I have never ever enjoyed conversing with a grifter, fraudster, or liar. The aftertaste is always disgust and disdain.

    For the people that want an earful of BS, lucky for them AI is now available at their fingertips 24/7.