• Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Are we talking to them for entertainment or information? Because it might be more fun to hear a flat earther try to explain their beliefs, but you probably wouldn’t want to adopt those beliefs.

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      10 hours ago

      A flat earther who did the math. Set up the experiment and measured the tangential angles of light rays or whatever. Worries about the hundred ways he may have fucked up his calculations.

      A round earther who googled it. Knows with certainty. Knows what all smart people know to be obviously true.

      Well you see my point.

      Also, focus is a powerful and funny thing. You could hide an elephant in the room if you are focused on the tv. It’s a kind of useful insanity

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        You’ve changed the comparison from your post. A round earther who googled it, is not a focused and passionate expert. They googled why the Earth is round and accepted it. A focused and passionate expert by nature of being an expert can do all the calculations that actually work and prove the Earth is round (nevermind the fact we’ve seen it from space at this point). Those focused and passionate experts are exactly the interesting people you want to talk to, because they intimately understand what they’re experts on and can go on and on about it in detail.

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          6 hours ago

          You’ve changed…

          I was offering a completely different point, to rhynoplaz there.

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              2 hours ago

              Well I stated that I think the opposite clearly enough.

              I appreciate the depth but ya. Wideness

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            9 hours ago

            If you have a point, make it.

            If being snarky and defensive is your only reaction when someone questions your statement, then you probably didn’t have a point to make.

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              8 hours ago

              Ok fine.

              The first guy is smart. The second guy is dumb.

              Your non-understanding is either intentional or unintentional. Both look like a miserable slog to me.

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                8 hours ago

                See? That’s why I asked.

                You described someone who was trying really hard to do everything wrong, and refused to believe it when he confirmed he was wrong. That guy is much more stupid than someone who easily finds answers that have been calculated centuries ago.

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                  8 hours ago

                  So are you saying that someone who knew what they where doing 5k years ago and almost perfectly calculated the circumference of the earth knows more about the shape of the earth than what I see on the horizon and all of my scientifically illiterate calculations??? Seems improbable.

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                    7 hours ago

                    One is the product of firsthand observation and careful reasoning, the other is a story told by authority.

                    Surely you appreciate the difference.