You know how there is a subset of leftists that just make everything worse? Up their own ass, stupid standards/priorities, generally annoying? That’s the general opinion of hexbear. I haven’t really interacted with the instance much, but that’s what i gather from the rumors and the occasional wild hexbear comment, but i might just be primed to notice the bad comments because of the reputation. maybe a bit of a dirtier/less stringently controlled beehaw.
Edit: although as lemmy grows chuds will bitch about them just for not being right wing.
Again, grain of salt as i don’t really have first have experience, but no. Hell no. Not even judging what you’re into, the rumors of hexbear make it seem like the kinda place where the mods are petty tyrants.
You’re obviously a CIA agent, liberal. Just because Hexbear supports AES states like Putin’s Russia, you have the audacity to attack us. Where’s the left unity, buttmuncher?
Hexbear.net is a Leftist instance with Communists and Anarchists. The bare minimum required is to be an anti-Capitalist of some sort there. As a consequence, some people take issue with that.
Communists tend to support Socialist movements worldwide, calling these movements extremist or authoritarian is a matter of perspective that Communists would disagree with.
No Communist defends everything AES states do, though. Communists have nuanced views based on our understandings of the realities faced by and in AES states, and disagree with anti-Communists on these fronts.
I find far more nuance on Hexbear regarding Leftist topics, at least in my experience. The average Hexbear user is more likely to have read theory, be it Anarchist or Marxist, than most other instances, so that baseline really helps elevate what kinds of conversations are had.
China is a democracy. It is not a liberal democracy, where multiple parties compete, but a Socialist democracy. You can watch a quick video from Chinese state media on how it functions, or how elections work. Over 90% of Chinese citizens approve of their government, and the majority believes they have a democratic impact on policy, at a higher rate than the US.
Easy to hit 90% when people are killed for not approving of the government. You support the tanks in this image.
I stand by what I said in that comment. You should read the Harvard study I linked in that comment:
We find that first, since the start of the survey in 2003, Chinese citizen satisfaction with government has increased virtually across the board. From the impact of broad national policies to the conduct of local town officials, Chinese citizens rate the government as more capable and effective than ever before. Interestingly, more marginalized groups in poorer, inland regions are actually comparatively more likely to report increases in satisfaction. Second, the attitudes of Chinese citizens appear to respond (both positively and negatively) to real changes in their material well-being, which suggests that support could be undermined by the twin challenges of declining economic growth and a deteriorating natural environment.
There’s simply no evidence of the CPC using intimidation to secure their overwhelmingly high approval rates. Both Occam’s Razor and real polling data seem to suggest that the support for the government is most closely linked to how much the government does for people, which can help explain why rural areas tend to support the CPC more, as they were the primary targets of the extreme poverty eradication program.
I really don’t think you’ve made an effort to try to understand China, and I don’t even mean the government. Why should you be able to decide what’s best for Chinese people, when they clearly support their system and believe it works for their interests? This is the kind of Western Exceptionalist chauvanism that plagues the English-speaking internet.
Further, Tian’anmen and the June 4th incident were never a part of that discussion, so you are clearly trying to add an emotional element to the argument.
Gotcha, when you can’t actually respond to logic when you insult someone, you pivot to using a vaguely racist caricature. Checks out for someone whining about Marxists.
I would love to get some context on this.
You know how there is a subset of leftists that just make everything worse? Up their own ass, stupid standards/priorities, generally annoying? That’s the general opinion of hexbear. I haven’t really interacted with the instance much, but that’s what i gather from the rumors and the occasional wild hexbear comment, but i might just be primed to notice the bad comments because of the reputation. maybe a bit of a dirtier/less stringently controlled beehaw.
Edit: although as lemmy grows chuds will bitch about them just for not being right wing.
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Again, grain of salt as i don’t really have first have experience, but no. Hell no. Not even judging what you’re into, the rumors of hexbear make it seem like the kinda place where the mods are petty tyrants.
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4chan is what gave us QAnon.
What in the world makes you think 4chan is something to emulate.
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So fuck minorities am I rite?
Anon forums are where hate groups flourish. Always have been.
It’s why the rest of the internet is moderated in the first place.
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So fuck others then amirite?
You don’t have to be a tankie to hate Putin. But you still should hate other hate groups.
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You’re obviously a CIA agent, liberal. Just because Hexbear supports AES states like Putin’s Russia, you have the audacity to attack us. Where’s the left unity, buttmuncher?
Start here.
Hexbear.net is a Leftist instance with Communists and Anarchists. The bare minimum required is to be an anti-Capitalist of some sort there. As a consequence, some people take issue with that.
Not as simple as that
Nothing is ever “simple,” but this is the crux of the equation.
It might be. But it’s also because you guys are very vocal and support extremism/authoritarian governments
Communists tend to support Socialist movements worldwide, calling these movements extremist or authoritarian is a matter of perspective that Communists would disagree with.
Sure, but there’s a difference between agreeing with the general idea and defending everything a country does. Nuance is important.
If what we consider an authoritarian country isn’t considered authoritarian by communists, then there you have an additional problem
No Communist defends everything AES states do, though. Communists have nuanced views based on our understandings of the realities faced by and in AES states, and disagree with anti-Communists on these fronts.
I was specifically talking about China never being badly pictured
tankiesand the leftists without the ability to have critical thought AND/OR nuanced conversation.I’m sure some of them are nice people, but they aren’t sending their best.
I find far more nuance on Hexbear regarding Leftist topics, at least in my experience. The average Hexbear user is more likely to have read theory, be it Anarchist or Marxist, than most other instances, so that baseline really helps elevate what kinds of conversations are had.
Hey everybody, this tankie finds hexbear users nuanced!
You really don’t notice what you’re doing, do you 🤣
I know exactly what I’m doing.
Red Scare anti-communist witch hunting? Are you related to McCarthy, by any chance?
If by “tankie” you mean Marxist, then yes.
No, I mean tankie.
This is you: https://lemmy.ml/comment/17634182 (https://lemmy.world/post/27462282/16133562)
Easy to hit 90% when people are killed for not approving of the government. You support the tanks in this image.
Gotcha, you mean Marxist.
I stand by what I said in that comment. You should read the Harvard study I linked in that comment:
There’s simply no evidence of the CPC using intimidation to secure their overwhelmingly high approval rates. Both Occam’s Razor and real polling data seem to suggest that the support for the government is most closely linked to how much the government does for people, which can help explain why rural areas tend to support the CPC more, as they were the primary targets of the extreme poverty eradication program.
I really don’t think you’ve made an effort to try to understand China, and I don’t even mean the government. Why should you be able to decide what’s best for Chinese people, when they clearly support their system and believe it works for their interests? This is the kind of Western Exceptionalist chauvanism that plagues the English-speaking internet.
Further, Tian’anmen and the June 4th incident were never a part of that discussion, so you are clearly trying to add an emotional element to the argument.
Gotcha, when you can’t actually respond to logic when you insult someone, you pivot to using a vaguely racist caricature. Checks out for someone whining about Marxists.
“Chinese man looks yellow” is not helping your cause
Have you ever actually been friends with someone who lived in China most of their life?
Oh no, not muh Tinyman Square! We authoritarians are so owned! That guy totes got squished by the tank.
You can even see it in this video.
Hex is more than tankies. While they seem to be very vocal, there’s more to the site than that.