• errer@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      If it wasn’t for even more autocratic nations filling the power void (China…Russia) the degradation of America’s importance would be a great thing. But unfortunately I think the rest of the world is unprepared to defend themselves with America’s sudden retreat into itself.

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          Not going to happen. Europe is barely holding together as it is, and Russia/China are using just as much energy and resources in undermining it as they do in the US.

          At best Europe can stick somewhat together enough to form a working defence and foreign policy for its own territory and near neighbours, but it is never going to be a global force.

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          Brazil, India, and South Africa might instead, creating a world where democracies and autocracies can get along fine with a tacit mutual non-intervention agreement

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          They have enough on their plate protecting themselves. Effective militaries are not made in a few years. (Not without shifting your whole ass economy at least.)

          Africa and South America and Asia better keep their eyes peeled.

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      3 months ago

      I think its “capitalists”, " communists", and “neither”

      Surely there were second-world countries that didn’t align with the Soviet Union

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      stop, wait, what, that’s why tankies believe in comrade trump? because any steps towards subverting American hegemony is mistaken as being inherently pro worker? even if it’s a genocidal fascist who makes workers’ lives worse

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        Are tankies pro trump? I see the grim irony of trump dismantling America’s empire, (grim for us, and the rest of the world doesn’t seem to be celebrating.)

        I suppose I should not be impressed by mental gymnastics.

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          in 2020 when bernie lost, reddit tankies were banning anyone in support of Biden, saying that a Trump victory would be preferable in the name of Accelerationism. I mean they weren’t rooting for him exactly but the rationale was “voting status quo would be worse than trump winning because we’ll be closer to revolution if trump wins so it’s best to not vote at all”

          i wonder if anyone posting that has spent a night in a depoconcentration camp yet