no worries. i spent a lot of time studying religion when i left a cult or two in my early thirties. we all pick up different things at different times, and that’s cool.
Which one was the guy who told Abraham to kill his son? Which one was the guy who told Noah to build the boat and Moses to lead his people out of Israel?
Do you believe in one of the abrahamic religions? If so, you believe that religion’s traditions are facts. History tells us that the separation of the 3 gods was not around until a certain date, so the holy spirit was made up by priests somewhere along the line. It was formally made into the tradition at the council of Nicene.
Not the other guy but atheist. Everything about religion is made up by somone. None of it is real. If person A says that god is only one entity and person B says that god is three entities, they are both equally wrong.
Those councils are literal cancer for modern society. They shaped 90% of what christianity entails these days, meaning only 10% are the actial words of jezus (if you are so inclined). Yet people don’t even know about it.
They were political solutions to medieval societal problems. Or they were structural or hierarchical solutions to governance problems in the church. There is nothing religious about them and they are certainly not of this time. Even worse, they are harmful to modern society.
I’m getting downvoted so people don’t see this history. I find that interesting. I’m not even athiest, per se. I know all living things have a life source, so that’s what I would call god if I were to call it something. I don’t believe in religious doctrine, but some religions of any faith, do a lot of good in the world. I don’t care what they call themselves, volunteers, christians, muslims, whatever. If you do mostly good in the world, I’m on your side.
I think I see what you’re saying: the many revisions of the books and beliefs can be (at least roughly) dated without too much interference from the fictional supernatural elements.
It’s the same god ffs! Allah and god the father are the same person.
Are they the same three people though?
The holy trinity! Jahweh, Allah and Deus.
(Technically all just mean god, but saying just “God god and god” seems so redundant.)
Sort of. Jesus exists in Islam, but only as a prophet, not as part of the triad.
So god and the holy ghost are the same, but Jesus is sort of a third wheel.
holy ghost is angel gabriel if i understand islam correctly, which i don’t, but maybe i got this part right
You’re right. I’m not great at keeping these pantheons straight, the overlap is confusing.
no worries. i spent a lot of time studying religion when i left a cult or two in my early thirties. we all pick up different things at different times, and that’s cool.
Not in their traditions, but in reality, yes.
Also not in reality though.
Which one was the guy who told Abraham to kill his son? Which one was the guy who told Noah to build the boat and Moses to lead his people out of Israel?
The same one that told Lot’s daughters to rape their dad.
If washing machines had existed in the bronze age, there would be a parable about your stepmom getting trapped in one.
Mental illness, mental illness, and mental illness.
That’s because you believe one of the traditions, maybe you respect theirs as well, are facts. History tells us different.
What?
Do you believe in one of the abrahamic religions? If so, you believe that religion’s traditions are facts. History tells us that the separation of the 3 gods was not around until a certain date, so the holy spirit was made up by priests somewhere along the line. It was formally made into the tradition at the council of Nicene.
Not the other guy but atheist. Everything about religion is made up by somone. None of it is real. If person A says that god is only one entity and person B says that god is three entities, they are both equally wrong.
Those councils are literal cancer for modern society. They shaped 90% of what christianity entails these days, meaning only 10% are the actial words of jezus (if you are so inclined). Yet people don’t even know about it.
They were political solutions to medieval societal problems. Or they were structural or hierarchical solutions to governance problems in the church. There is nothing religious about them and they are certainly not of this time. Even worse, they are harmful to modern society.
I’m getting downvoted so people don’t see this history. I find that interesting. I’m not even athiest, per se. I know all living things have a life source, so that’s what I would call god if I were to call it something. I don’t believe in religious doctrine, but some religions of any faith, do a lot of good in the world. I don’t care what they call themselves, volunteers, christians, muslims, whatever. If you do mostly good in the world, I’m on your side.
I think I see what you’re saying: the many revisions of the books and beliefs can be (at least roughly) dated without too much interference from the fictional supernatural elements.