• Pamasich@kbin.earth
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    3 days ago

    Is Lemmy/Piefed really that desperate for growth that lies are needed to raise awareness?

    Federation and privacy are incompatible. You can’t tell me Lemmy is private when Google can just get all your data for free with minimal work and without you ever getting even just a hint about it.

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      3 days ago

      If you post something to a public forum, obviously it’s public that’s no surprise to anyone.

      That’s not the whole picture, Mainstream social media are some of the worst offenders when it comes to privacy, they use trackers and share all your data with advertisers.

      Lemmy/Piefed doesn’t

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        3 days ago

        …those advertisers can literally set up a server themselves and collect all the data that is being federated. It’s arguably easier for advertisers to get your data from here than from Reddit or Facebook.

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          2 days ago

          If I anonymously host my own blog, is that blog of mine a invasion of my privacy? because anyone can read it and see what and when I post there?

          As others have said here:
          PieFed has no Google analytics, no Facebook pixel, no mobile app hoovering up all your phone contents, no telemetry, doesn’t track which websites you leave to, doesn’t require a real name and so on and on. It’s not even in the same league.

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            2 days ago

            I think you misunderstand what people are looking for when they say privacy. They don’t want any company having their data. If you set up a blog and post about yourself on that blog then yes, you understand you are revealing your private details and that’s a choice you make.

            You coming on here and telling people that a platform they are using is private when it isn’t is a completely different scenario. Those people reading here might have no understanding of how federation works. They think “oh this is like email, my email is private, this must be private as well” when in reality every detail is sent to every other node in the network, including votes. That’s not something you would expect a privacy conscious service to do. And pretending like it’s the same as a blog is disingenuous.

            Currently lemmy and piefed are not private and do not pretend to be. You are the only one saying that.

            • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zip
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              2 days ago

              They think “oh this is like email, my email is private, this must be private as well”

              They know they can’t read other people’s emails. They can read all the comments here even without being logged in.

            • Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.socialOP
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              2 days ago

              Do you think people don’t realise what the post on a public forum is public?

              What are people looking for when they say privacy? Privacy means different thigns to different people.

              For some it’s corporations not using trackers etc. to sell their data to advertisers.

              PieFed/Lemmy is a step in the right direction in this regard.