It’s only baffling if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist, regardless of how many people say otherwise.
Liberals will refuse to listen to our explanations of our positions and then call our positions bizarre and indecipherable. Because you get your understanding of our positions from stories you make up and pass around about us that have no basis in reality.
Not a single person says the Russian Federation is socialism. You’re confusing people critically supporting its movements against the US Empire with people believing it to be socialist. They do have rising socialist sympathies among the populace, but that doesn’t make them socialist.
Actually you’re right, I misspoke. The comment said that modern Russia isn’t anywhere near USSR ideals, to which I said makes it even more baffling that tankies support it.
So yes, it’s not AES, which makes it obvious that tankies supporting Russia are anti-us campists and not anti imperialists.
By that logic, you don’t even need to know my stance on Russia, because the fact that I opposed the war in Afghanistan “proves I’m not anti-imperialist.” The Taliban definitely isn’t socialist either, after all.
I’d like to fully agree, but modern Russia is not even close to the old school soviet which they idolize.
Also true, which makes their modern Russia apologia that much more baffling. Well, not really, as any US adversary is good in their eyes.
Is Russia even a US adversary anymore?
You seem to think that having Trump on your side makes you pro America, but I strongly disagree.
Putin didn’t campaign for his pet Trump to be president in offer to strengthen and enrich the USA!
In terms of population I don’t think having Trump on your side makes you pro America, but “adversary” is a geopolitical term.
On the stage of geopolitics, the current US government acts in favor of Russia.
True, yes.
But I don’t think it’s reciprocated!
Russia sees everyone else as either Russian or enemy of Russia.
Depends on your frame of reference, but I’d still say yes even if the president is a Russian asset.
It’s only baffling if you don’t listen to the actual reasons people believe things and just assume it’s because Russia used to be socialist, regardless of how many people say otherwise.
Liberals will refuse to listen to our explanations of our positions and then call our positions bizarre and indecipherable. Because you get your understanding of our positions from stories you make up and pass around about us that have no basis in reality.
I know I shouldn’t bite, and it’ll all end in tears, but this bait is too tempting!
What, specifically is good about specifically Russia as it is nowadays, from a leftist perspective, that isn’t because it used to be socialist?!
I never said tankies support Russia because it used to be (allegedly) socialist,
I’m saying it’s wild you promote it as AES when it fucking isn’t.And I’ve heard the apologia for the Ukraine invasion, and it’s all bullshit.
Not a single person says the Russian Federation is socialism. You’re confusing people critically supporting its movements against the US Empire with people believing it to be socialist. They do have rising socialist sympathies among the populace, but that doesn’t make them socialist.
Yeah already took the correction below.
Gotcha.
And I’m saying no one considers Russia to be AES, it’s a strawman that libs tell each other about us until they forget they made it up.
Actually you’re right, I misspoke. The comment said that modern Russia isn’t anywhere near USSR ideals, to which I said makes it even more baffling that tankies support it.
So yes, it’s not AES, which makes it obvious that tankies supporting Russia are anti-us campists and not anti imperialists.
By that logic, you don’t even need to know my stance on Russia, because the fact that I opposed the war in Afghanistan “proves I’m not anti-imperialist.” The Taliban definitely isn’t socialist either, after all.