I love the Fediverse and Lemmy. But technically, it still lags behind the big platforms in some areas. And there are many things where I believe the Fediverse will eventually be significantly better than centralized platforms, but which are still underdeveloped. Unfortunately, I can’t program myself, or at least not very well. So I’m wondering how I can best support development financially.

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    Servers cost money to run, many lemmy servers have set up a way to donate for server costs.

    You can try to post about lemmy on other platforms, but be aware that that carries a risk of getting banned.

    Normally I’d also recommend supporting the devs, but fuck tankies. I plan to switch to Piefed because of that, since it’s obviously hypocritical to keep using a standard Lemmy server when you dislike the devs so much.

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      I flipped to piefed about a month ago. I took 1 evening to open 1 tab with my lemmy subscriptions and 1 with piefed and manually transferred it all.

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      I plan on switching to Piefed because of that.

      Same, I already did. Maybe the fediverse foundation would host a PieFed instance if there’s enough interest.

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      You may be surprised how seamless the switch is, you can import your Lemmy account settings

      The big drawback is a loss of mobile app selection but I’ve come to like Blorp quite a lot

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        Blorp dev here. Let me know if there’s anything I can do to make your PieFed experience even better! I’m launching support for PieFeds multi communities feeds very soon. Stay tuned.

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          Sounds good

          The big things I’d want is a longer list of Piefed instances to add and the ability to add keyword and community filters from the app without full on blocking

          The double lines on “Enter” in the comment editor so they actually appear is fantastic!

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            Is there a specific instance that’s missing that you want to use? You can input a custom instance durning login in the search input.

            I’m not sure I understand the keyword filters without fully blocking part.

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              Sorry, didn’t realize the search box allowed custom domains like that. That’s perfect!

              The keyword thing I mean is similar to the “mute words/post/user” feature Bluesky has but using Piefed’s keyword filter (Settings > Filters > Keyword Filters when using the web version)

              In my “perfect world” these filters are predefined and put rage bait posts in the same cultural zeitgeist as NSFW ones

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    If you use an 3rd party native iOS or Android app, leave them a nice review! Also star any related projects on GitHub or codeberg.

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    I suggest you financially support PieFed instead and the instance you are on.

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    You can also contribute if you feel some content is missing, start a community or contribute things to an existing one. Quality is the result of care.

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    If you want to specifically support Lemmy financially, then you want to support the devs: https://join-lemmy.org/donate

    An alternative is to support your instance by donating to them instead. Lemmy.world is your instance, so here’s the link to donate to them: https://liberapay.com/fhf

    FHF stands for Fedihosting Foundation and are the people who host LW and many other Fediverse instances with the world TLD. https://fedihosting.foundation/hosted/

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      Point me to the point in the code where this fact has come up. References to specific lines would be ideal.

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        This ignores how money donated supposedly to support development of the Lemmy codebase goes instead towards moderation of their personal instance. Unless you want to donate to Nutomic specifically (which has other issues), there is no way to donate specifically to develop Lemmy code.

        So ironically the answer to your question lies in the lines that are lacking, but that would have been there otherwise.

        Bottom line is that it’s their code and they can do as they please. Meanwhile, I switched to PieFed. I wish you good luck with that extremely slow-paced development of Lemmy, but I am not putting any hope into it myself anymore.

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        The main dev is also an admin on lemmy.ml. There would probably be more instances that defederate lemmy.ml if it weren’t for that, and the way that account-level blocking is implemented isn’t really that great.

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        “At least I’m not drinking literal shit!” (while drinking a glass of warm piss)

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    Donate to Lemmy (or Piefed) development directly, then your home instance. If you’ve still got some cash burning a hole in your pocket, donating to instances that host communities you particularly care about is also something you can do

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    To support development financially, the first best way is to donate to the devs, for which people have already posted links.

    The second best alternative, in particular for the people who are butthurt about the devs having their given political position yet hypocritically continue to fund or promote things like iPhone child labor, Amazon, Walmart, corporate backing of Israel military, or US taxes, would be to financially support the maintainers of the Lemmy instance(s) you are in. Most instance have their own “donate” / “support” link somewhere. Check yours.

    (another advantage to supporting the instance you are in is that you would, usually, experience sooner or larger improvements in return for your investment. Better storage or network plan for your instance = better speed or uptime for posting lolcats)

    Third best way, probably, is to finance public or state-level advocacy for Lemmy and/or Fediverse general. Alas I don’t know what if any organizations exist there nor how are they taking money (and report on its usage).

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    Supporting Lemmy won’t do much to help the Threadiverse thrive imho. Instead I suggest supporting PieFed, for many uh… reasons. One being that it is written in Python (which many developers are already familiar with, rather than the extremely niche Rust that even experienced C++ coders are loathe to have to learn) and thus has a ton of features already that Lemmy lacks (see https://join.piefed.social/features/), plus it’s only continuing to add still yet more, on a monthly basis even.

    By comparison, Lemmy requests sit for literally years and years, while a lot of the donations, rather than going to support further code development, instead goes to support the, let’s just say “highly controversial” instance lemmy.ml.

    Lemmy won’t “die”, but it’s never going to hit mainstream. Visit r/RedditAlternatives in any given post to find out why (hint: tankies, which Westerners do not like, probably bc tankie instances are full of content calling for the literal murder of Westerners as well as the actual fall of those civilizations - for some reason though these anti-Western sentiments seems to drive people who live there away? Go figure!🤪🙃).

    PieFed on the other hand might just have a chance, and the dev team is super friendly and highly responsive. At least check it out.

    Also, post content! More than most other things you could do, that would help a lot.

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      Shitting on Rust while propping up Python, whose ecosystem receives every day more and more influx of Rust-based tools and libraries is… a weird choice.

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        It is your choice: you could look at the set of features that PieFed has and how quickly they were developed, and you could compare that to the requests sent to Lemmy for features that have not and seem at this pace like they will never be done, and you may conclude whatever you like.

        Maybe it’s not the language, maybe the PieFed devs are just simply that good while the Lemmy ones are not, is that what you are implying?

        Or maybe you don’t know the feature comparison between those two software platforms - fwiw I included a link above.

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          I’m specifically complaining about you shitting on Rust. The other things you mention aren’t germane to your language-specific attack.

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            written in Python (which many developers are already familiar with, rather than the extremely niche Rust that even experienced C++ coders are loathe to have to learn)

            There are pros and cons to every language. Is what I said inaccurate? “Many developers are already familiar with” Python, whereas many people are not wanting to learn Rust. I’m not saying it’s not a good language (or that it won’t be one when it gets finished), but from the standpoint of how many people are willing to join a project to write code for the Threadiverse, it does hold back feature development.

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              Your assertion that “many people are loathe to learn Rust” (with the obvious implication that it’s unworthy of attention) or that it is an “incomplete” or “extremely niche” language, are unsubstantiated and insulting assertions themselves.

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                I never said it was unworthy, just that for whatever reason, people are not doing it. And… it is incomplete? And perhaps “extremely” niche is the wrong phrase but definitely “common” is something that it is not.

                Again, I have not asked you to take my word for it: compare the feature sets yourself to see the empircal evidence with your own eyes.

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                  people are not doing it

                  Ah, yes of course. The community of Rust programmers is full of imaginary beings, holograms and simulations.

                  it is incomplete

                  Care to specify what is missing?