• vxx@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Theyre not limiting their tools, they’re limiting some awards they could win by doing the art themselves.

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      22 hours ago

      No no. The rules didn’t say “art” it was ALL AI use for the whole duration of the project. Planning, emails, research everything.

      Not a single drop of AI is allowed.

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        21 hours ago

        I’m pretty sure sending Emails isnt considered game development.

        That Argument is moot though, because they were in fact banned for using AI Art, not some internal spreadsheet or Emails they sent.

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          20 hours ago

          This time yes. But the rule ban any and all AI use during development. It doesn’t matter if it’s in the final product or not.

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            19 hours ago

            Games developed using generative AI are strictly ineligible for nomination.

            https://www.indiegameawards.gg/faq

            You arent developing a game when you sennd Emails to someone. Same as you’re not a developer when you do the finances.

            Thats part of the company that arent involved in game development.

            Your argument is equal to me claiming piblishers are developers.

            They might want to make it more clear for the purposefully ignorant people though.

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              18 hours ago

              If you’re sending emails related to the development of the game you’re developing to other people developing that same game, you’re NOT developing the game? What kind of bullshit mental gymnastics is this?

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                18 hours ago

                Sending Emails related to development is still not development itself.

                If youre washing your gymnastic dress, it’s not considered doing gymnastics. You are even allowed to wash them while high. Still wouldn’t get you disqualified from the Contest, just when you’re actually high while doing gymnastics.

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                  17 hours ago

                  Bad analogy. Communication is part of team development. If you’re pitching ideas, redefining requirements or requesting additional assets, you’re developing the game…

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                    11 hours ago

                    You’re clearly avoiding the spirit of what’s being said here, but I don’t mind biting the bullet anyway: Coworkers should not be using AI in their emails, either. Main reason being it’s obnoxious and makes you look illiterate.

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              19 hours ago

              What about AI based autocomplete in an IDE, would that disqualify a game from this specific award?

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                18 hours ago

                Would you consider it your own code or Code that was generated by AI?

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                  16 hours ago

                  It’s a weird gray area. Nobody really knows where the limit is. The current consensus is that for a fact the “AI” can’t own a copyright to anything.

                  How smart can an autocomplete be before it takes away your copyright? Does using snippets count? How smart can the snippet engine be at filling the template?

                  If I ask AI how to solve something but write the exact same code myself, is it mine?

                  It If I grab code from stack overflow, does it make it mine?

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                    11 hours ago

                    It’s a weird gray area. Nobody really knows where the limit is.

                    This is a “no.” If you can’t just say yes, that’s a no, buddy.

                    If I ask AI how to solve something but write the exact same code myself, is it mine?

                    You know, colleges figured this one out: it’s called “plagiarism.”