Good. Let’s make everyone hate ai so we turn against it and regress back to a better time.
Good, I can’t afford new shit now anyways. Gimme shit for the shit I have.
Console gaming now is stupid. The Xbox and PlayStation are both just x86_64 PCs with different colored plastic shells.
Indeed and two years of advancement for steamboxes / Linux gaming distros will be the nail in the coffin. These are the last of their kind.
The PS5 base security keys got leaked, it’s going to be a full fledge PC once the modders get to work. Might be the cheapest way to get ram now hah.
Good? Current gen is extremely capable and there’s no reason for a refresh then anyways.
Yeah, it feels like those consoles would be more expensive, for hardware that’s not going to be terribly stronger, to play games which don’t need the visual upgrade, and all of that wants to be paid by players with less money to spend.
What im hearing is that if we want those things sooner and at a reasonable price, we should do anything and everything possible to pop the AI bubble.
I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for us to own nothing.
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I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for is to own nothing.
They’re certainly welcome to attempt selling that to me.
They won’t like the outcome, but that’s more of a them problem.
Doesn’t that rely on everyone having a fast internet connection with a high data cap? That’s not the case for a lot of people
We’ll see. I hope you’re right. Similar tactics in the housing market have created situations in which rent is cheaper than mortgage payments, which is a bad portent.
I mean, I’ve already got a backlog of 100+ Steam and GOG games I haven’t played yet, plus something like 1000+ retro game ROMs, and I’m happy to go digging in the crates as it were. There are already more games available than I’ll have time to play in my lifetime.
They push cloud gaming and I go fuck off entirely.
GeForce Now performs well but it’s already seeing further limits put in place. Gamepass already saw price hikes. Amazon Luna has a terribly small library. Smaller players have to buy GPUs, memory, and processor’s too and contend with AI data center induced rising power costs. Plus data center location matters a huge amount and that’s still a work in progress for game streaming services and a lot of the world
Plus my Internet throttles after like 1.5TB a month. Fine for ~15mbps Netflix. Not so good for ~100mbps game streaming. Others have data caps or overage fees. There certainly are those with uncapped/unthrottled internet. I wish my neighborhood had that
Game streaming is going mainstream going to get worse short term too. Mostly pricing and worse usage limits
A midrange phone these days are power competitive with a PS4. Makes more sense for Steam’s future support android APKs because of the Steam Frame to make way for Steam to be an Android game store and devs target Switch-PS4 hardware on the low end and PS5 mid/high end. Don’t even entertain the idea of a PS6 level min requirements game for a game releasing this decade. Probably not even for the first half of the 2030s
You guys have data caps? Or is that mobile broadband?
Depending on location. Same city 3 years ago no data cap. Current neighborhood first had a data cap that had overage fees or pay an extra $50 a month for uncapped. Now with a service provider that does throttling after a point during congestion
I haven’t ever used game streaming, is it seriously that latency-free that it’s worth it? I just can’t imagine that.
Depends on how close you are to the server and your Internet connection. For me when my Internet isn’t having a bad day, the latency is good even for twitchy shooting games. I wouldn’t rely on it for a competitive game full match length, but anything single player is good. Pretty much anything that isn’t super fast paced twitchy is good. GeForce Now is how I first tried Cyberpunk path tracing. Worked great
I remember trying out games on GeForce Now, Gamepass, and Luna around the same time. GeForce Now and Luna latency wasn’t a problem for me. Gamepass was frequently really bad
I’m not subscribed to anything anymore. Just wanted to try them out. Only when there’s a deal. Forgot to subscribe for one month 50% last month so I’ll wait again. Probably a summer month when I want to game but not use my desktop
Interesting. I have 5gbps fiber so I wonder if it’d be good. I’m just struggling to understand how it could be, lol. I don’t really game anymore though. Thanks for the reply!
Well the pop would only cause more issues like lack of funds for anyone to even afford one of those things.
Well the pop would only cause more issues like lack of funds for anyone to even afford one of those things.
Possibly, but this doesn’t diminish my desire for that bubble to pop sooner rather than later.
Good. They can both run Cyberpunk. Games don’t need to look better than that. Let’s focus on porting older PC games that still have some life in them to existing consoles, and/or getting Steam running on them.
At some point we gotta say “what can we do with the tech we have” rather than looking toward the next one. Look at the Switch 2, it only has a couple games the Switch 1 can’t play, and “Switch 2 Edition” of existing games… that update was completely unnecessary. But they’re gonna release a big update for the biggest Switch game (Animal Crossing) in a couple weeks. Making existing games have more value.
Who cares they will just be the same thing with more powerful hardware.
Make something new already
I can just have the AI play my games for me. Problem SOLVED!
Then you’ll be free to work more! It’s win-win!
EXACTLY what the Billionaires were after in the first place. That’s some 3-D chess going on here.
So y’all remember when they had more than 5 games for their consoles? Why the fuck do we need a bigger better one? The ps5 still comes off as fucking useless in my understanding so, making the tech more complex without taking care of their gaming situation is a ridiculous cash grab and serves only to isolate the industry MORE from the gaming consumer
Microsoft could justify a $1000 console if it can also be used as a full desktop computer. I couldn’t see Sony doing something similar unless they miraculously brought back Linux mode.
But I also wonder if Microsoft will take a legit attempt at salvaging the Xbox brand next generation since they’ve completely blown this one now and are making no steps to remedy it.
The PS5 security keys got leaked, until they make a new hardware revision (can’t be fixed with software) every existing ps5 (and maybe pro) just became fully open.
$1000 computer running windows 11?
At these RAM prices?
They’ve had the hardware for it since the first Xbox, so I assume they’ve gone out of their way to avoid that. I believe they want to make sure their consumers buy both an Xbox and a PC.
So it’s not all bad news then
Heyyyy, talk about silver linings
better to edge on it than release at 3k
