Notwithstanding but all of this proprietary bloatware to use your mouse and keyboard properly is BS.
I’ve had a g703 for about five years now, and it’s been an excellent mouse
But fuck that bloatware, man. I was wondering for weeks why my mouse would randomly change sensitivity
I love when certs expire publicly, because I like to imagine the last person who knew that needed to get renewed got fired in the last 90 days and has been biding their time, checking the news for the eventual payoff of getting to watch the hubris go off like fireworks.
Especially when renewing certs is so easy it can be automated. Automating certs like step 3 of setting up your own website, right after buying the domain and pointing DNS at your server.
Logitech makes decent, and sometimes great, hardware.
Their software division is run by clowns and always has been.
Logitech makes decent, and sometimes great, hardware.
Until they discontinue loved products with no clear replacement
I got a Logitech X52 flight stick and throttle from back when it was the only HOTAS worth a shit under $200.* The software that came with it makes me want to stab a puppy with broken glass.
*There are now 0 HOTAS worth a shit under $200.
They deserve to get dragged through the mud on this one. It should be completely impossible for any server-side fuckup to cause a mouse to stop working. The fact that this kind of issue is possible is absurd and can only be explained by negligence.
It didn’t stop working, only the mouse customizations through the app did. A lot of people just like to jump into drama and help drag it out, never mind the astroturfing. It was negligent, they didn’t deny it, and they fixed it quickly. It also only affected macOS users, which totally affected PC Gaming…
Because we all know how a problem that only affects macOS deeply affects PC Gaming …
I’m generally not suspicious even though they are everywhere these days, but I have to wonder how much astroturfing there is behind this from other PC Gaming peripheral competitors. Logitech, an established brand, has a problem that is unpopular, makes that ASUS mouse seem more appetizing. Although it’s probably reddit users/circlejerk bandwagon being reddit users/circlejerk bandwagon and amplifying an otherwise less significant issue that has already been resolved…
There are open-source programs for configuring Logitech peripherals without the insane bloat of the official app. I can’t name them offhand because the last time I used them I had to try three or four to find one that worked with both old and new hardware, but they exist.
Solaar is the one I use
Solaar has been good for me as well. Last I checked it doesn’t have the MX Master 3 listed as supported but it seems to work fine
Keychron M7 is a clone that uses a configurator in the browser. Works on Linux.
Also use solaar, which works for my Logitech mouse.
Piper/libratbagd is what I use for the Logitech mice but I believe it’s Linux only.
Yep, I was pleased to find Piper once I switched to Linux instead of using the ancient Logitech Gaming Software on Windows (fuck g-hub).
Same, works great for my G600 (somehow still the best MMO mouse, more than a decade after being released)
I’m so jelly. They discontinued the 602 & 604 which I love for not having too many buttons like the 600
The 604 is my favourite mouse. I have one holding on to life with a 3D printed replacement for the rubber skin that started to deteriorate.
I didn’t even think 3d printing was an option, that’s awesome
The model doesn’t cover every area that the rubber did - which is annoying - but others the job done.
Is it stiff like PLA or squishy like tpu?
I love the 600, its an entire weapon wheel on the mouse with precise selection (and, well, MMO’s)
Oh yeah, I had a 600 when I used to pay wow, and it was awesome to have the whole attack bar on the mouse. I just think it’s too many buttons for daily/office use. Plus the 604’s selectable bumpy/smooth scroll wheel is awesome. I really should have bought 2 or 3 when they went on clearance
i use piper and its great. completely offline.
Libratbagd
Only issue I had was that I installed the day after libratbagd was updated, but it took an extra day or two to update the piper flatpak for some reason.
I had no idea that the software side of the company was such trash, but that’s probably because I’m using windows. All my peripherals for the past decade have been logitech, and I’ve been super happy with them. Do linux users have these kinds of issues with logitech devices?
I have returned perfectly fine Logitech hardware because of their aggressively unreliable windows software. I’m guessing you and I haven’t used the same versions.
Truth be told, I’ve never even downloaded their software. I pretty much plug and play. I’m using the G502 hero as a mouse and the astro A20 headset. I always keybind in games, but I’ve never really used the extra buttons in any of my applications, so didn’t need to bother with their software. This explains why I haven’t experienced the frustration other people have. Yeah, if I was the kind of person that wanted to keybind in other applications, I’d rage at a shitty app for that too.
This makes sense then. Their hardware is pretty nice, it’s just that if you want to use all the features, you must use the rage inducing software.
I drew the line when my keyboard stopped working because their software was glitching that day. Zero functionality. A keyboard should never brick just because the software that customizes functions of the keyboard is not working.
I think I had purchased their most expensive keyboard and returned it immediately after that incident. A keyboard should just work.
I have less issues with it after switching to Linux and using solar than I had on windows with the official app.
My PC is 6 years old and was high end back than, so its still mostly up to date, but a lot of the time the Logitech app simply refused to work. I had to manually downgrade it multiple times and it even caused two BSODs for me. My headset had issues with its connection and the soundfilter just sounded awful.
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I used logitech mice for years but I finally stopped and I’m glad I did. There’s cheaper, better options now.
I moved to the endgame mouse. Specifically the op1we last year, since it has optical switches that can easily be swapped out if problems arise. And there’s custom pcbs to be able to use regular micro switches. No need to solder anything.
And the mouse can be easily opened up without ruining the mouse glides, since they didn’t put the screw’s underneath there like lot of mice do.
And for keyboards I moved to custom keyboards long time ago that have QMK support so I can use VIA or VIAL to set my keyboard and not use the manufacturer programs.
Not for symmetrical mice. Able to be used in left hand. Maybe that’s not a big issue for most. SteelSeries used to have an option, but they’ve dropped off.
yeah I hope more left handed mice get created by the smaller companies in the future
I still love my logitech ergonomic work mouse and keyboard… but dont install anything but the auto-install drivers.
