• MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de
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    8 hours ago

    … the time to do this shit has long been upon us. Who gives a fuck what they can do, until they do it? As an American, I’m begging you, put up or shut-up.

    I didn’t vote for the baby in office, and I would gladly suffer to see his toys taken away by the adults.

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      4 hours ago

      I said this in another thread but I’ll say it again, threats are only useful if you hold leverage. If they blow their load, what else can they hold over the heads of the US? They need to threaten, and then if they threat isn’t listened to then they act on it. Doing it now just ensures there’s not much of a punishment left to be dealt, so there’s no reason not to invade. Sure, the economy will collapse, but that would happen either way in the case they act now.

      If I hold a knife to you and threaten you with it, you’ll listen. If I just stab you then what reason do you have to listen? Just like nukes, the only use for a threat is in not using it. If you do have to use it then you’ve lost the reason they may have held back.

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      4 hours ago

      I wont suffer from this, but ill gladly watch you and my neighbirs suffer! obviously not being serious, but damn thats almost what you sound like lol. If you had some money, suddenly youre an asshole with that mindset is all. My neighbors who cant tought it out shouldnt suffer because you accept a raw deal is all im sayin

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        8 hours ago

        Facts ≠ Opinions, although I am going by the title where it says “Can”, rather than “should”. I stated my opinion though.

        Maybe Europe would act, if enough former colonies call them cowards.

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    No, unfortunately, it doesn’t work like that. “Europe” doesn’t owns a lot of US bonds; private investors from Europe own them. There’s no way to compel them to sell them.

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        Ok except you’re completely wrong regarding Europe. Governmental investments in US are mainly made by countries outside Europe, like China. The only European exception is Norway, which alone can’t do much (and is not in the EU).

        So yes, almost half of foreign US bonds owning are by governments, just not European ones.

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      There’s no way to compel them to sell them.

      On paper no.

      In practice, when you consider how much economy at that level is driven by quid pro quo, that statement sounds almost silly. It’s not a matter of whether governments can trigger a mass disinvestment, it’s a matter of the cost.

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    8 hours ago

    Yeah, the problem is that Europe is going to dick around not doing that while the other side is actually using bullets.

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    Selling US Treasury bonds is exactly what Trump wants as it would devalue the dollar (flooding the market with dollars basically devalues the dollar) and Trump wants to devalue the dollar to make manufacturing in the US more attractive and to stimulate exports and therefore jobs in the US.

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      4 hours ago

      Not sure it’s a plan as much as an unintended consequence. The man doesn’t really have a track record of deep thinking.

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      Ok not a sketchy website. I was using the WiFi at my Company I work for, they were redirecting my traffic leading to the browser warning me of the invalid certificates.

      On mobile data the link works. This is the first time I noticed it today, and after the second link from Google gave me a similar issue I knew something was fishy

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      Why is your browser out-of-date?

      I mean, I don’t like the site per se, but Firefox isn’t complaining for me, so I am legit wondering what browser you are using that does complain. Are you planning on giving that site your personal information?