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    7 months ago

    I got permabanned from Hexbear for simply denouncing ageism. Apparently not falling for the divisive labels they stick on every generation so they can blame each other is not tolerated.

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      7 months ago

      90% of the time these assertions are BS, so evidence or it didn’t happen.

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      7 months ago

      They are not as extreme, but you cannot realistically have a civilized discussion on their servers. Unfortunately they are much more established with several big communities which are hesitant to move to more reasonable servers so while hexbear was an easy insta-ban for me and most other Lemmy users, we’re stuck individually blocking ml users for now.

      But hopefully because of the idiotic choice of the ml domain, they will eventually go the way of hexbear.

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        They are not as extreme

        IMO they’re just more subtle about it because they don’t want a larger call for defed to happen, I’m sure they all have alts on Hex/Grad where they let out their…“restraints”.

        They’re very quick to deride .world as nothing but a “Reddit 2.0 CIA front propaganda machine” and yet won’t defed from it themselves…

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        Wasn’t the whole .ml domain an issue way back during the reddit migration too, cause its the domain for Mali? I remember it being an issue when I came over to Lemmy, which was back during that migration. When Reddit locked down its api and a bunch of redditors (me included) did a “blackout” to protest.

    • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.

      In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.

      This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.

      This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.

      At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.

      Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.

      This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.

      That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!

      But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.

    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      The only people who let Trump win the election are the democrats. We spent years telling them what they need to do to win, instead they chose to end covid protections, divert covid funds to the police, build Trump’s wall, facilitate genocide, and other extremely unpopular policy.

      They knew these policies were unpopular among everyone who might vote democrat, they chose to do it anyway.

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        7 months ago

        You keep yelling at them to do what you want. But if you’re such a formidable power to influence the elections, you could’ve done it already, in a way that was clearly presented to you.
        You didn’t.
        That means that either you overestimate the number of people that think like you, or all of you don’t know or care how to participate in democracy.
        Both of those options mean you know jack shit about what to do to win the elections, and can only yell on social media.
        That by the way says nothing about the validity of your claims, you could be morally correct and advocate for objectively good things, but if they aren’t getting you in power, it doesn’t matter.

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          you overestimate the number of people that think like you

          It doesn’t matter how people think, left policy is overwhelmingly popular and republican policy is only popular with republicans!

          How the hell are you arguing that the democrats did the right thing, when they lost. They chose policies that they knew would decrease turnout with their base to appeal to “moderate republicans”, and once again, the “moderate republicans” voted for republicans.

          you know jack shit about what to do to win the elections, and can only yell on social media.

          We’ve tried every thing in our power to influence the democrats. When we protest, they send police to silence us.

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            Maybe I’m misreading that link of yours, but it shows that four specific policies have popular support. It certainly doesn’t show that all of the Democrat Party policies have overwhelming support. The recent election proved that about as definitively as is possible in American election history.

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              I live in SC, my vote had no effect on the outcome of the election. The only possible thing I could do to affect the outcome of the election was telling dems to stop doing things that decreased turnout, such as facilitating genocide and pretending to be powerless, and do things that would increase turnout such as legalizing cannabis, putting Trump in prison, facilitating women’s healthcare.

              Instead the democrats called us antisemites and BlueMAGA dipshits like you assured everyone that the democrats could win by maintaining the course.

              That didn’t happen. You should have been next to us screaming at the democrats to stop driving us over the cliff, but instead you criticize people who were literally powerless to affect the outcome of the election for not being silent as the democrats drove the bus off the cliff.

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                I’m not american but, are the “democrates” and “BlueMaga” (now what the fuck is this??) in the room with us right now? Did you vote, really?

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                7 months ago

                my vote had no effect

                Yeah, but not for the reasons you think. It’s because you deeply don’t understand anything about how US government works and what plays to your elections. Simultaneously you claim that you know what strategy Democratic party should adopt to win.

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            You have zero idea how popular progressive ideas among voters, because you motherfuchers don’t vote. Random polls means nothing if they aren’t followed by votes, and they aren’t.
            Last time they run they were running much more conservative campaign with an old white dude woth much more conservative platform and they won. That’s also not the whoe story of course, but this explanation fit more precisely than yours.

            We’ve tried every thing in our power

            Oh my. Have you tried voting for the candidate you like? Bernie lost popular vote (I repeat, popular vote) (I repeat again, popular vote) twice when he was nominating. Have you and your hoards of silent majority, tried sending a fucking mail twice in a decade?
            Again, if you all did, that’s an indication that there is not enough of you and US is a conservative shithole where most of the people want monstrous policies.
            If you didn’t, that means you aren’t citizens, and your opinion doesn’t matter for the purposes of the government, you’re children and should be treated as such.
            I don’t know which is worse.

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              Last time they run they were running much more conservative campaign

              Biden barely scraped by the skin of his ass, and my experience phone-banking in 2020, half the voters I talked to thought Biden was for free healthcare, cannabis, defunding the police, freeing the ICE camps, and free college because he was the democratic candidate.

              Meanwhile Kamala said the only thing that would be different from Biden’s administration is that she would appoint a republican to the cabinet and ran on building Trump’s wall. The dem messaging went right of 2020 on trans people, crime, foreign policy, economic policy.

              The average voter is very low information when it comes to politics, but they know healthcare is too expensive, they know college is too expensive, they know locking migrants in cages is bad.

              Left policy is popular because it materially improves people’s immediate conditions. It doesn’t matter whether someone has conservative ideas or not when their livelihood depends on a specific policy. When you weaken it or add a bunch of means-testing and complicated rules, your supporters will care less, and your opposition will continue to oppose you.

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        I’m not even american you idiot. I’m from one of the country your pedophile-president wants to annex lol.

        Palestine thank you for letting bilionaires-nazis take the power! Now they lost their land and an ethical genocide is on the way but you and your friends will soon get the chance to go get a bigmac in gaza!!! How exiting for colonialist privilege white ass like you, writing from mom basement!!!

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    7 months ago

    Regardless of whether you’re politically left or right, I feel like the hexbear crowd is just tremendously unfriendly. Even when I agree with them, I usually feel bad reading what they have to say. Being unwelcoming is not a good strategy for proliferating one’s politics.

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      Depends, if you’re a Communist or an Anarchist and aren’t being sectarian (except against, like, Gonzaloists that support Gonzalo and defend Pol Pot), it’s very friendly. By not allowing liberalism, it ends up stopping endless arguments between leftists and liberals before they can even start.

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    Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn’t even exist anymore.

    Are yall so laser focused on feudposting you missed that piece of news?

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      Hexbear exists, the domain is changing names and federation is broken for now but posting is still happening on chapo.chat.

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      They’re the reddit users that think reddit 2024 is too left wing.

      They’re the reddit users that believe the only thing wrong with reddit is too many ads.

      They’re the reddit users that think voting is an effective measure in a captured kakistocracy.

      They’re the reddit users that believe Biden is most left wing president in US history.

      In short, yes.

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        They’re the reddit users that think voting is all you can do to end fascism.

        They’re the reddit users that think if you question authority you must love the other party’s authority.

        They’re the reddit users that think anything to the left of them must be ignored, and anything to the right of them is just misunderstood.

        .world has more insufferable people than any other community, it has the most spots on my blocklist. I’d block the entire thing if it didn’t cripple my hobby communities and some of the few good ones from it.

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      Nah world is full of liberals but they get real uppity when you start going after liberalism from the left

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        Nope, Tankie is very clearly defined as “Authoritarian Communists”

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

        Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.

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      Hexbear, grad and .ml are the Tankie Triad, .world defed’s from Hex and grad because Hex is the worst, Grad is runner up. .ml tends to be more subtle about it and has largely avoided a more mass defederation movement like what happened with hex and grad

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          LMAO tru tru, but unfortunately the tankie admins and mods of .ml are quick to enforce the subtlety by censoring (the irony for a group that is quick to accuse others of it lmao) those kinds of posts under their catch-all “RULE1”

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        .ml is not subtle, they just circlejerk within their sub a shit ton, rather than infesting other communities. Usually the idiots tend to congregate it seems.

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      It’s a Communist/Anarchist instance, Lemmy.world defederated from it before they had a chance to federate.

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      No solutions other than offering a solution.

      You’re literally using a communist platform right now. Owned and run by “the workers”, and free to use.

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    That’s why the folks really worried about tankies make alt accounts to go hunting for bad takes to share with the unfederated.

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    World is federated, just not with absolute junk instances.

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      The point is that Lemmy.world defederated from Hexbear, so the complaints about Hexbear coming from Lemmy.world users frequently are based on second-hand information.

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    Imagine thinking hexbear is “woke”. Literally just cosplaying Nazis.

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      Hexbear is Communist/Anarchist, not fascist. They are quite “woke” if “woke” means supporting LGBTQ rights and ethnic minority rights. If you think Communism/Anarchism are fascist, then you might want to read Blackshirts and Reds.

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        Yeah, lemmy.ml is the exact same situation, so your opinion is akin to Putin letting me know the Russians are really trustworthy.

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          If you don’t trust me, then you can probably trust Dr. Michael Parenti, who wrote Blackshirts and Reds. The first couple chapters are all you really need to understand the major and critical differences between Communism and fascism, and why ever conflating the two makes no sense whatsoever in theory or in history.

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            But the members aren’t communists. They’re republicans. With a pretty clear agenda. They can play pretend outwardly, but if you’ve seen enough internal posts and commentary it’s painfully obvious. Not to mention they don’t give a shit about communistic ideals, they literally just fawn over fascism and it’s historic leaders.

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              The members of what are republicans? What on Earth are you talking about? Who is fawning over fascism and fascist leaders? What is this incoherent rant talking about?

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                Ah, okay, we’re going to play that game. Have a good one, and fuck tankies. 😘

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                  What “game?” The only “game” I can see is you jumping through hoops to justify not having to explain your conspiracy theories and to avoid reading books that would help you understand the world around you. The “game” seems to be seeing how long you can intentionally keep your head in the sand.