• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    I like any political map that triangulates liberals from the left and right.

    And I love any one that properly omits libertarians.

    • Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 month ago

      I am getting more and more confused.

      Liberty ≈ Freedom.

      Liberal is someone beliveing in something adjacent to freedom. Libertarian is someone believing in something adjecent to freedom.

      But I only hear bad things about liberals, alright I already knew 'Merricans are stupid, they get angry about a word while not even being autistic. But I also somethymes hear about libertarians. what the fuck is that supposed to be, especially compared to its namely cousin?

      Well I know I’m not being entirely fair to the poor, old 'Murricans, there surely is something they all know about their system, that has not yet reached me. Still calling someone by one of your core tenets ('Murrica, land of the free, home to lady liberty…) and believing that to be an unterstandible slur sure is weird.

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            1 month ago

            Idk you calling people stupid while also coming off as extremely ignorant on the topic just makes you seem like both an asshole and an idiot.

            You can either be an asshole or ignorant but if you’re both then all I can ask is Jesse what the fuck are you talking about.

            • Uiop@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              1 month ago

              Well people are stupid. I am a hypocrite, I am somethymes an asshole. And I’ll call americans stupid for however long I wish to.

              As for me being ignorant… The search-engines are never useful. I asked for information and gave some sort of premediated Information about my previous understanding. Now I know more than beforehand. Because some people were helpful.

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      1 month ago

      It’s a joke, but “leftist” is such a wide term that it encompasses groups which don’t really want to do much with each other, such as anarchists, bernie-bros, and ~red fash~ tankies marxist-leninists. Anarchists tend to not hate anarchists for example.

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        30 days ago

        Here we go again, an anarchist calling Marxists leninists “red fash”. What country destroyed Nazism, please remind us.

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                30 days ago

                Seriously though, I don’t know how anarchists can look at the consequences of the Perestroika, Glasnost and eventual dissolution of the Eastern Block, the millions of lives lost to unemployment, alcoholism, drugs and suicide, and still use the word “tankie” (coined to degrade the communists in support of the intervention of the USSR in Hungary when it went down that very path).

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                  30 days ago

                  It’s precisely because we saw the path of the USSR. Because we can see that ML regimes always leads to oppression and capitalism. They’re just another way to convert poor agrarian/feudalist societies to capitalism and have no socialist potential. Terrible system.