What about the ones that came here to avoid censorship elsewhere, but got banned here instead? Turns out lemmy.world and lemmy.ml don’t like free speech.
I’m the guy that left reddit 10 years ago during the Elen Pao thing and never returned, moving from free speech platform to free speech platform. Putting up with literal nazis whom I did not in any way agree with because they were censored and banned while I was there for ideological reasons.
Edit: oh i see, you got banned because you’re a homophobe and a bigot and an asshole.
That’s not censorship. That’s just people not putting up with your dumbass.
Sounds like censorship to me. I’m from the old internet where if you didn’t like what somebody had to say you ignored them. Current internet is far too soft and full of safe spaces which will ban anybody for the slightest offenses.
Instances are groups of like minded communities. To extend the earlier metaphor it’d be like going to a town that doesn’t allow cars and you decide to ride your motorcycle down the sidewalks blasting all the houses with noize they don’t want to hear.
It doesn’t work so well when the majority of people are concentrated in one or another. It’s like going into a Reddit admins pet project sub and then getting banned completely on Reddit because you broke that sub’s rules.
Sounds like privilege to me. For instance I think blahaj is entirely correct to aggressively enforce a space where people aren’t allowed to argue their userbase shouldn’t be allowed to exist.
with reddit, you can twitch you would get shadowbanned, new users are likely to get banned because they look they are botting or spamming,because no account history, they just turned thier filters up very high. your account against 2 different set of filters(reddit filter sitewide, and subreddit of specific niches filters) they have all mostly increased it.
They said all that about a bunch of alternative media that was banned from all money processing. Oh, you can’t use the banks. Why don’t you just make your own? While I don’t agree with most of the things those kind of people said, I also do not agree with completely banning their speech. All that does is push them into the shadows and that’s how Donald Trump gets elected.
Running a lemmy instance is a lot easier than running a bank though. There may also already be an instance that is close enough for you and you could run a community there.
.ml is probably worst, but World, gets touchey if you engage in politics that takes slightly effort to get banned on those communities.(especially involving around disputing israel/gazi related issues, like whos backing and funding it.
.world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”
I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.
ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”
If only! To be pedantic though, what Lemmy.ml actually says is:
A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers
and
No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
Which (somehow?🤷♂️🤪) translates to what you said, except… no wait, it does not? Hence it says one thing (my quotes) while doing exactly the opposite (your quotes), in point of fact.
On the other hand, there’s the “trust me bro, i iz total1y relaibles” defense, otherwise known as “nuh-uh, I know you are but what am I?”
Because while it is human nature to be wrong sometimes, it might be best not to actively wallow in it? (See also: Hexbear, Lemmygrad.ml, and some smaller ones such as midwest.social)
They can say they only ban for whatever reason, but then just ban for whatever they like to. Just don’t disagree with them, or say something they don’t like and you’ll be fine. Yeah. I’ve got major issues with that.
I’ve never had an issue with mods or admins outside of .ml, personally. And that’s while overtly being a dick. I can’t comprehend placing .world and .ml in the same sentence.
Having looked through your modlog, it seems like you had a bit of trouble adjusting to the only newly broadly accepted ways that men and women can characterize themselves. It’s an adjustment, to be sure. Particularly without context.
What about the ones that came here to avoid censorship elsewhere, but got banned here instead? Turns out lemmy.world and lemmy.ml don’t like free speech.
Oh look, it’s the yellow/green person from the meme!
I’m the guy that left reddit 10 years ago during the Elen Pao thing and never returned, moving from free speech platform to free speech platform. Putting up with literal nazis whom I did not in any way agree with because they were censored and banned while I was there for ideological reasons.
We are not the same.
You got banned for talking about the government?
Edit: oh i see, you got banned because you’re a homophobe and a bigot and an asshole.
That’s not censorship. That’s just people not putting up with your dumbass.
You seem to misunderstand what censorship is.
Censorship is when you’re silenced by the government.
What’s your definition?
People refusing to entertain an asshole is not censorship.
It has never been just the government that’s only in regards to the first amendment.
People refusing to entertain an asshole is not censorship. Deal with it.
It is when that person is banned from all unrelated communities. Definitely censorship.
It’s a good sign no one wants you here.
Wouldn’t be an issue if federation was happening with a whole bunch of tiny instances, but it’s one giant and then a few other smaller ones.
‘Censorship is when I’m not allowed to use the R-word.’
Just open a text file if you want to write whatever you want without dispute, the right to say what you want isn’t the same as the right to be heard.
Sounds like censorship to me. I’m from the old internet where if you didn’t like what somebody had to say you ignored them. Current internet is far too soft and full of safe spaces which will ban anybody for the slightest offenses.
yes, the current internet is full of safe spaces. as it should be. people deserve to feel safe.
you’ve basically gone into someone elses house and criticised them for not allowing you to track mud all over their floor.
Individual communities, sure, but not entire massive general instances. That’s beyond stupid.
Instances are groups of like minded communities. To extend the earlier metaphor it’d be like going to a town that doesn’t allow cars and you decide to ride your motorcycle down the sidewalks blasting all the houses with noize they don’t want to hear.
they are individual communities. that’s what federation is for.
It doesn’t work so well when the majority of people are concentrated in one or another. It’s like going into a Reddit admins pet project sub and then getting banned completely on Reddit because you broke that sub’s rules.
You don’t even have 100 comments my guy. And you’re getting banned from multiple places? Lmao
What are you talking about? I have over 1,800 comments.
Sounds like privilege to me. For instance I think blahaj is entirely correct to aggressively enforce a space where people aren’t allowed to argue their userbase shouldn’t be allowed to exist.
And yet I’m not banned from there. Only massive general instances.
You are free to host an instance with any rules you like, also lemmy is generally ok with Luigi posting
with reddit, you can twitch you would get shadowbanned, new users are likely to get banned because they look they are botting or spamming,because no account history, they just turned thier filters up very high. your account against 2 different set of filters(reddit filter sitewide, and subreddit of specific niches filters) they have all mostly increased it.
They said all that about a bunch of alternative media that was banned from all money processing. Oh, you can’t use the banks. Why don’t you just make your own? While I don’t agree with most of the things those kind of people said, I also do not agree with completely banning their speech. All that does is push them into the shadows and that’s how Donald Trump gets elected.
Running a lemmy instance is a lot easier than running a bank though. There may also already be an instance that is close enough for you and you could run a community there.
.ml is probably worst, but World, gets touchey if you engage in politics that takes slightly effort to get banned on those communities.(especially involving around disputing israel/gazi related issues, like whos backing and funding it.
.world, from what I’ve seen, basically says “don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, which leads us back to point 1. Also no piracy.” .ml says “avoid criticizing Russia, china, North Korea, communism, communist figures, or cursing at our special little gremlins who will spew vileness at you entirely unprompted. But also don’t be a dick or deny atrocities, unless doing so interferes with any of the previously stated rules.”
I can’t see how you’d have a grievance with both, unless you’re moving politically rightward. Which I have strong opinions about.
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Don’t give them any attention, they’re just attempting to manufacture consent for .ml is all.
If only! To be pedantic though, what Lemmy.ml actually says is:
and
Which (somehow?🤷♂️🤪) translates to what you said, except… no wait, it does not? Hence it says one thing (my quotes) while doing exactly the opposite (your quotes), in point of fact.
On the other hand, there’s the “trust me bro, i iz total1y relaibles” defense, otherwise known as “nuh-uh, I know you are but what am I?”
Because while it is human nature to be wrong sometimes, it might be best not to actively wallow in it? (See also: Hexbear, Lemmygrad.ml, and some smaller ones such as midwest.social)
Well I got an instant no-warning permaban from lemmy.ml
I think it was for a post in which I basically said there won’t be peace in the Middle East until there’s a lot less religion in the area.
I dunno, you never know who has an easily offended Sky Daddy LOL
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They can say they only ban for whatever reason, but then just ban for whatever they like to. Just don’t disagree with them, or say something they don’t like and you’ll be fine. Yeah. I’ve got major issues with that.
I’ve never had an issue with mods or admins outside of .ml, personally. And that’s while overtly being a dick. I can’t comprehend placing .world and .ml in the same sentence.
I must have pissed in an admin’s Wheaties in their favorite community.
Having looked through your modlog, it seems like you had a bit of trouble adjusting to the only newly broadly accepted ways that men and women can characterize themselves. It’s an adjustment, to be sure. Particularly without context.
Mine is a fairly broadly held opinion in the general public. Not well represented in niche online spaces though.
I dunno, man. People just want to feel safe and accepted and it costs little to adjust
Cool, so why don’t you adjust to me instead? It’s just as easy right?