There is pretty much one thing that these places have that Reddit doesn’t and that is a lack of CCP-esque account tracking and banning. Every other problem Reddit has is still here. Asshole mods that have zero accountability, toxic communities with fringe hiveminds, they are all still here.
The one thing that will always be missing because of the independent and ‘federated’ nature of these websites is the actual people. These website are fucking ghost towns. Looking through the top communities on here, there are only a handful that even get multiple posts a day. If you make a post on here, unless it’s one of the top few communities, you’re lucky to get a single comment within a day, if you even get one at all. You may get a bit of upvotes, but no one engages. On Reddit, I can make a post on AITAH or CMV or something and get hundreds of comments within an hour.
Another affect this has is basically eradicate any ability to have smaller, more niche communities. Reddit is famous for having the most specific communities of all time. One time I went on r/vizio to fix my Vizio TV, and they had solutions for me within minutes. There is no other platform where you can do that, and Lemmy sure as hell doesn’t have the user numbers to allow for it. I mean you basically can’t even find populated subs on here for even specific game franchises, the closest you can get to it is just c/games.
So yes, while Lemmy doesn’t have the world’s most oppressive ban system like Reddit, there is just no real content or engagement on here to justify not just trying to ban evade on Reddit.
This is just my personal experience though, I’d love to hear what you guys have to think
But you no longer trust those 100 comments on reddit are coming from humans. So the magic is dead. Gone. Are you calling out a problem you see here or feeling nostalgia for something you no longer have? One perspective is that the little bit you get here isn’t a failure to recapture the magic, but the most of it you will get ever again. The internet will only continue to be less free from here on out. The pre-unleaded generation in power is going to spitefully force us to empathize with their eternal postwar fever dream. Try not to yearn for the
1950searly 2000s the rest of your life.I mean I was born in 2006, and have only been on Reddit for a few months. The only reason I came here is because Reddit banned me, which is the same reason I suspect 99% of Lemmy users are here for. At the end of the day, I’ve just found that if I’m posting to vent or to ask a question, I’d rather get 100 responses in an hour than 1 response two days from now
Honestly, I think the fact that you can’t count on instant gratification here is one of the things that helps keep it from becoming a shit hole like reddit.
I don’t mind the slower, more deliberate place here. You get less trolls that way.
Yeah, Lemmy is pretty small. Even I miss the massive subreddits or moreso the small niche ones.
I will point out that Reddit is roughly 20 years old and that audience took time to grow. I don’t really want Lemmy to grow that much because it does bring the riffraff that plaged reddit, but it is pretty lonely out here in the corner of the internet. I do find myself refreshing apps hoping for new content quite often.
Nailed it. Reddit didn’t really explode until digg went to shit, if I remember correctly. Then the tumblr porn ban caused another mass migration.
Stuff takes time and Lemmy in its current state isn’t user friendly. It’s too confusing for many and suffers from a lot of what OP is saying. I’m struggling to get people to switch. I’m sure it will get better.
Once reddit fully collapses in on itself, which is inevitable, there will be another mass migration to somewhere. Lemmy may stabilize and figure itself out by then.
Obligatory fuck u/spez.
I can agree with the community sentiment. Feels like we skimmed off the top layer of nerds from Reddit and they’re all ornery while trying to adapt to their new environment. I say that as one of them, lol.
I get that this is a relatively new frontier, but jeezaloo there are a lot of negative nellies around. “It’s the internet, block/ignore them” yadda yadda, sure, but it just feels like a more sizable amount of people who would close stackoverflow threads as “duplicate” and link to a thread that doesn’t answer the original poster’s question, ya feel me? Like, those kinds of Redditors.
I get that “remember the human” is an old, cringey netiquette, but I wish more folks on here would take that to heart. Hard to sell Lemmy as a viable alternative when folks treat people like they’re beneath them.
Makes me wonder how many on here were around when the term was coined and the behaviour was mostly expected.
People need to be the change they want to see. I came here because I wanted to run some communities, but ultimately it was impossible on Reddit. All the names are taken, all the aging mod teams set in stone. You essentially have no meaningful opportunity to build anything new on there. In contrast, and especially with federation, the Fediverse is a completely different system. A fresh start - still after 2 years. And it has way better internal advertisement of communities than Reddit does.
And to be clear, on Reddit you can easily just shout into the wilderness at no-one. Big audience means you can get drowned out.
I’m ok with it. If I need information on my new favorite game, I’ll check Reddit because someone is talking about it, but for my day to day scrolling, I like it here. If there’s no new stories since the last time I looked, that’s my sign to go find something better to do. I recognize the names of people that I speak with almost daily, and I imagine they recognize mine too.
I don’t remember what it was, but I remember disagreeing with Kolanaki about something trivial. We each made our points, and moved on. I honestly considered what they had to say because I’ve had discussions with them before. I know that we do agree on most things, and that they are a reasonable person. And I’d like to think they at least considered my perspective for the same reasons.
I’m all for more growth, more content, more interaction, but not necessarily “compete with Reddit” big.
why are the down votes?
Because Lemmy is just a microcosm of Reddit, and if you dare say anything negative about the platform, you’ll get downvoted into oblivion
Ok, bye
Complaining about heavy-handed mods? Someone find the deleted post where they said something batshit insane and/or racist!
Look, I am a community moderator here on Lemmy, and I agree with OP. There are a lot of moderators, whether they are on Reddit, Lemmy, or anywhere else, that should simply not be moderators.
I moderate the cars community (not the disney movie, like the main automotive community) on my home instance. Just me and one other moderator, its a pretty low traffic community. There was a third moderator who was dormant. Suddenly, that dormant account becomes active, reposts what the other active moderator had posted, then deleted the other moderators posts as “duplicates.” They then proceeded to remove both me and the other moderator so that they were the only community moderator. I don’t really mind; being a moderator isn’t really something I want and my home instance admins had to ask me like, 4 times to be a moderator for that community. Anyway, I messaged the admins saying like, “hey, this other account suddenly became active after like a year of inactivity and while what they are posting isn’t against the rules or anything, I don’t know if this was from you guys or if you guys know about it.” Needless to say, the admins took some actions including removing that moderator and reinstating me and the other moderator.
It’s a low traffic community
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Not like that. I’m talking about breaking some obscure, minor rule that the mods will insta ban you for
Which community banned you?
I posted on like r/changemyview, and then took more than an hour to respond to the comments (because I actually have work/school) and they permabanned me for breaking the rules. That’s just one instance though
Nothing in the modlog. On Lemmy.world or a different instance?