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    I guess the Marxist would keep the gun, but shoot the roof and the anarchist would shoot the roof to name a point?

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    7 hours ago

    No surprise that the marxist and anarchist are unarmed.

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    Then the fasciast shoots the Marxist and Ancharist, then proceeds to beat the Liberal to death.

    Liberal surpised Pickachu face

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    Correct, liberalism is a center-right ideology. They are literally closer on the political spectrum to fascists than leftists.

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        Liberals will always put corporate interests ahead of the rights of the people. Of course they’d rather have happy people and happy corpos, but when push comes to shove they are always more willing to hand the keys to fascists than socialists. At least the fascists believe in capitalism.

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          Liberalism has nothing to do with corporations. These are two totally independents axis. One one you have liberalism and authoritarianism On the other you have socialism and capitalism. You can have liberal socialist and you can have liberal capitalist. People love to conflate these things based on the popular parties in their country. But just because there are opposing parties with some specific economic/social viewpoint combination in one country, it doesn’t mean that they make a template how it works.

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            Dearest, no. The axis are economic left vs right (private vs public ownership) and authoritarian vs libertarian. Libertarian being “I can do whatever I want” and authoritarian being “you can only do what I say.” Libertarianism is distinct from liberalism which is a political ideology invented by John Locke which believes free market capitalism is the best economic system except that it needs to be regulated to protect consumers (think the FDA). Before Donald Trump and for most of American history, both parties were liberal parties.

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              I’m not sure what you’re trying to imply here. Are you saying that it’s not correct? Care to explain why?

              • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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                I’m saying that the political compass (the two axes you described) is for the politically illiterate; a farce that distorts political economy into delusion.

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                  Honestly I don’t care for kids memes from the internet about a compass. Just because there are kids creating memes, it doesn’t make it incorrect. What is more illiterate is conflating things that don’t have anything in common just because “that’s how it always is” just because that’s how it works in your country.

                  Also there’s actually a third very popular axis that tends to be conflated with the rest based on random thoughts, and that’s progresivism vs conservativism. People also like to say stuff like “all liberals are automatically progressive” (and vice versa) in the same way as the original post did.

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            Capitalism is very tied into Liberalism, private property ownership and free markets are Liberal ideas. You’d have to bend them quite out of shape to arrive at socialist liberalism.

            The fact is that some individual rights have to be sacrificed for the collective good, and that includes private ownership over productive assets.

            You have to oppress oppressors, you have to resist violence with violence. You have to take things away from people who took things away from those they exploited.

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              We have a major political party which is liberal, progressive and socialist. We also have a major political party which is liberal, progressive and capitalist. We also have a semi-major political party which is liberal, conservative and capitalist. And we also have major socalist conservative authoritarian party. No bending out of shape was necessary.

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                Socialism as in giving people social security is different from socialism as in socialist economy.

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                  One is “social” “democracy”, the other is the inalienable human right to food, health, housing, education, work, rest etc. through an economy owned/controlled by the working people. An economy where the parasites as a class have not only been liquidated, but are actively suppressed from reemerging.

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    Reminds me of Romania right now where the centrist candidate that won the presidential elections (and tons of people on here celebrated because it wasn’t a reactionary right-winger) refused to ban and straight up endorsed legionary and fascist organizations to “fight communism”

    Article in Romanian, though using machine translation will get the general idea across

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      “won” after they illegally anulled the results and didn’t allow the winner to take part.
      All OK for the EU when things don’t go their way.
      Not that I want those fascists to win but yet another example of the hypocrites from the EU with their imaginary ‘democratic values’

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              Democrats could offer relief in one of several areas like housing, healthcare, or education and win in a historic landslide.

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              There is no legal or civic action that can undo the now inevitable.

              People are going to be surprised when the gop looses elections, democrats come into power again and nothing changes for most people. Then gets even worse the next gop presidency .

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              Direct and immediate action along with halting all Dem support until they start trying to get leftist voters instead of trying to get the mythical “moderate conservative”.

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                  Stop thinking they’re on the higher ground for refusing to bend the rules. Fight fire with fire. Imagine the world we could be in now if Obama gave as few fucks as Trump does when there was a filibuster proof Democrat majority for six months.

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                  Not sure I can say since I got perma banned from Reddit for saying it too many times. Don’t know Lemmy’s rules.

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              Probably not the same strategy that got us 12 years of Trumpism. We should try literally anything else.

    • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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      11 hours ago
      1. Only post socialist memes

      That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)

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    Only if the fascist happens to be in charge right now, because that’s the law. smh.

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      They won the election fair and square, we should have voted harder. People didn’t vote against the fascist hard enough. Don’t worry though we’ll vote harder against the even worse fascist next time. If we do this enough times there might even be someone to vote for rather than against, the trend has to reverse sometime.

      Ok Google set an alarm for four years.

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    Ah right, liberals, the bane of everyone’s existence. Nazis are already blaming liberals for everything, so it was just a matter of time until anarchists (or whatever OP likes to be) start doing the same.

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      I mean, Liberals did just throw one of the easiest elections in history, allowing some of the most openly fascist people in politics to come into power… again. Then they have the audacity to blame the people they made it clear they don’t give a fuck about.

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        Hey now, don’t undersell them

        They also helped build out a lot of the systems that the fascists are using, and reached across the aisle to support the facists.

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      Maybe liberals should stop doing things that make fascism grow, and help the people who stop fascism? Maybe that’s asking them to not be racist elitist assholes, so they’ll never do it.

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          Not voting for a democrat you mean? I think leftists would vote for a left wing candidate if you Dems can ever bring yourself to nominate one for President. Otherwise it’s just more of the same.

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            Cornel West ran, non-voters exist because they are happy with either front runner winning. If they wanted neither then they would protest vote.

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              Most non-voters I know just feel entirely hopeless that any election will lead to improvement. I always vote (and always for a 3rd party), but I’ve stopped giving my non-voting friends a hard time. As one of them said: “I don’t vote for the head of the KKK either!”

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      Mooooooooom, call the cops. The lefists are being leftists again, they don’t see that compromising with and providing the material basis for fascists is actually a good thing!!1!1!!1!1!!

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      Pretty sure the original post is by a western, native English-speaking anarchist. She’s a YouTuber and I’ve watched a couple of her videos, which I found pretty good.

      You’re welcome to disagree with her but the xenophobic assumptions don’t really add anything of value to the conversation here.