You are going to fuck this up. Don’t come crawling back to me when you lose all your data since the dawn of time and you completely brick this goddamn computer. This is your one and only warning.

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    this is why I moved everyone in my family to atomic fedora. This is almost entirely not a thinng there. To be fair while all of them regularly fucked up windows, only my mom ever fucked up regular linux distros.

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    How times have changed. If you have used Windows 98, you were always the administrator. Your five years old brother could actually go around deleting random system files.

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      It’s nice to have a GUI for those things sometimes rather than a command line for everything. If you’re doing things right, your daily login shouldn’t have access to modify system settings or read sensitive logs. But troubleshooting requires that often and ls, vim, cat, tail, etc., can become cumbersome compared to a GUI file manager and proper GUI text editor like Kate or Gedit.

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      Same here, but I can understand why someone might want to. For many people, even those that are comfortable on the command line, a GUI is a more comfortable experience. And, I have (rarely) needed to do some filesystem management as not my primary user account.

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      I installed something that I got very disappointed, and wanted to get rid of it

      the script itself tried to rm something in a directory but failed, sudo dolphin didn’t work, so I found out how to delete stuff from… I think /bin or /usr/local/bin ?

      That needed me to run as admin/root so I did it. I deleted 1 file, the leftover artifact of the thing I didn’t want installed. I then stopped using dolphin as admin so that I wouldn’t break everything forever.

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          I’m getting used to it; I customised it to my liking and it even has a terminal built in. what do you recommend instead?

          also, what do you recommend that works like VSCode for writing shit into that I never save and leave open forever, and has a search functionality on all open files that can work on any programming language I want (through compiler/interpreter and colour scheme plugins)?

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      They probably don’t even read what the message has to say. When I’ve helped some family members with their computer I’ve seen something important pop up and they just closed it immediately. I asked what did that message say and they said “I don’t know I just closed it.” :/

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        With modern windows error messages being absolutely useless “something went wrong :/” tier messages I can’t even blame them that much anymore.

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        That’s usage for a non tech literate user

        They will force every block out of the way of what they want to do, and if it stops working, they call someone.

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      Mac and Linux users do this too. If they didn’t then systems administration wouldn’t be a career path.

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    With this character’s file’s death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game backup to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created.

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      I guess they meant “beyond repair if you don’t have access to a live boot USB or the means to create one”. Gotta remember who this warning is meant for. For those kind of users, “beyond repair” might technically be true.

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        Maybe its also a ship of theseus type situation. If you have to copy /etc/ from somewhere else, is it still the same installation?

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          In modern Linux and assuming you did no pre-filtering or post-processing, no. machine-id systemd is a thing, fstabs commonly use device UUIDs now snd so forth with various subsystems. A laptop GRUB config commonly has the resume UUID set (sleep/hibernation stuff), a server typically has network configs tied to the hardware IDs, and on and on…

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        rolls up sleeves Not if I gave anything to say about it! Watch a master at work missing boot folder missing rescue disk missing OS backups

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        Laughs in NixOS (while still spending the next few days going insane trying to figure out what isn’t in config qq)

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        Efi spec states it must be safe to delete all variables. It’s only motherboards not adhering to the spec that are affected, effectively faulty hardware.
        If you do this on a mb from that era chances are nothing will happen, and if something does happen chances are it is recoverable. You’d have to have some truly bad luck on your choice of mb to have it be permanently bricked by that.

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        Yes, but many modern mainboards do feature two UEFI copies and can switch to the backup on the fly - and most let you restore a bricked UEFI from a USB drive. Not sure if this can help here or even work on this situation, but it might be worth a try.

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    IMO an application written with a graphical toolkit and connected to a graphical server like X or Wayland shouldn’t be run as root, as these millions of lines of code that the program may use through libraries is a very large potential attack vector.

    This should be done through the terminal if you value security.

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      You aren’t wrong, but really what are the odds the version of zenmap I got from official repos is going to be an issue? I like pretty pictures to go with my networking tools, it’s not like I leave them open after

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        It’s not that the program you’re running is malicious, but that it has an exploitable flaw. Because it’s a GUI app, a lot of things can touch it, which might be something malicious or something with another exploitable flaw.

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      Yep, they used to. SUSE actually shipped a second version (or maybe just a shortcut with some startup-option) of Dolphin to provide “Dolphin as Root”. I think this was inspired by said approach

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      I had to come back to this message several times over the course of the day to finally understand that you mean seeing this message in the emulator dolphin while playing Mario Sunshine ups the stake of the game.