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AB-1043 “Age verification signals: software applications and online services.”
Text https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043
Other info https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1043
California AB 1043 signed. Mandatory os-level, device-level, app store, and even developer-required age verification for all computing devices.
Edit: altered title from “ID check” to “Age Verification check”
Et tu, California with Democratic majority in both chambers? Fucking disgraceful.
Well, we as a state voted to ban flavored tobacco products when like 10 kids were getting popcorn lung from black market THC oil carts.
And selling tobacco to minors here is highly illegal, as it should be. So I never understood why we banned flavored tobacco, when the kids were getting issues from black market THC carts, which they also shouldn’t have been sold/using.
Not even getting into how the law didn’t stop flavored alcohol, we can still buy bubblegum flavored vodka here.
So even in the 2nd most Democrat leaning state, we still push for the dumbest laws. This was a state wide vote, not something the Senate/Assembly voted on.
It was a pretty big problem, not just a few kids. That outrage killed the diluent and thickener market for squaline and mineral oils. I learned way more than I ever wanted about how people cut oil based products for looks and consumption. It ended up that basically the entire industry was using products that weren’t new but we’re now being used at the rate of millions of gallons. Honeycut was the big name that was being sold by the 55 gallon drum.
If you vaped during that time, you likely put mineral oil into yours lungs. Black and gray market it’s still a problem, and those cutting agents were making it to the retail market by the time it got better.
I can report here that my fellow cigarette smokers in Illinois are still happy to be puffing their cancer sticks because flavored nicotine vapes are worse, and cause popcorn lung, so I should just keep smoking cigs.
Dumbest laws are pushed because we have the dumbest peoples.
the popcorn lung shit is such old news that people who bring it up have no idea what they are talking about. it was related to a chemical called Diacetyl. The popcorn lung name was from a industrial incident where workers were making popcorn with diacetyl as the flavoring, and there was an accident and they inhaled diacetyl vapors. There was no study done to say the levels in e-liquid cause this “popcorn lung” but e-liquid companies were so scared it would ruin their business that most removed the flavoring from their recipes, and the ones that contained it, had a warning that it had diacetyl, all without the goverment stepping in. vaping gets so much flak from the shit big-tobacco has done in the past decade and its sad where it is now, where people buy disposables and its just a dead market then what it used to be. just to put things into context here in canada. a 60ml bottle of eliquid used to cost 20-30 CAD before the “sin tax”. now, it costs 55-60 CAD for the same bottle. want to bypass the tax and DIY? sorry, nicotine bases to mix only go up to 20mg/ml FOR THE WHOLE BOTTLE meaning that if you want to make your juice, the whole bottle of nicotine base you bought is used for ONE BOTTLE MIX and is subjet to the sin tax. before you could buy a 100mg/ml bottle of nicotine for 40 bucks and it would last your months while you had your flavorings, and PG/VG bases.
Flavored tobacco used to only target minorities so it was OK. There are documentaries about this showing how much more flavored tobacco was advertised in lower socio-economic areas.
Once children started vaping the CA govt stepped in.
If you oppose the ban I have to assume because you don’t know where to get menthol cigs anymore. I live in Oakland and can still find Newports. I quite smoking them over 25 years ago but know more than one place that sells them.
edit - this thread is about age verification. not sure why you think tobacco bans are remotely close.
I don’t smoke period so I don’t mind it. I found the reasoning banning it was stupid, because the boomer voting base didn’t understand the reason for the Prop being drawn up.
Talking about a dumb law being passed, so I talked about a dumb law being passed. I said that a state of Democrat voters and Democrat Assembly members doesn’t mean they always pass the best/logical bills. Better than if the state was ran by Republicans, but so is every state.
LOL lib thinks the fascist-lite party cares for the plebs
A lib (liberal or libertarian leftist) as opposed to what? A non-liberal, ie, authoritarian leftist?
I don’t think authoritarians have credible claims on this matter or anything worthwhile.
obviously US liberals.
The fascist-lite party voters who imagine themselves to be left/progressive
you’re so obviously american… fucking compulsive liar liberal poseur.
“obviously” right.
50% of my comments are shitting on that cancer country.
And deservedly, what a collection of morons.
Proven once again by you
US liberals are mostly social liberals & progressives. They include liberal/libertarian leftists from the political map.
Are you claiming liberal leftism? Then welcome to the club.
I do not care for your explanation.
The politically illiterate US population uses every term and definition wrong.
Also they are relative and progressive there means nothing since the overton window is so narrow it only goes from fascist to center-right.
You can say or claim what you want, all I’ve heard from so-called US ‘liberals’ was nearly as horrible and right-wing as the rest.
Only different in their pet peeves like LGTB, etc…
What are you trying to argue? Non-liberals will demand liberty from intrusive imposition of age verification? What do we call these advocates for social liberty? With which major US political ideology do they belong if they had to choose?
You must be speaking of yourself: now you’re disagreeing with political scientists & historians. The linked article cites definitions & references from both.
The political spectrum article
reaffirms political scientists consider progressives & social liberals on the left.
Not entirely: words still mean things.
Progressivism: ideology
Social liberalism:
So back to modern liberalism in the US: what has it endorsed & pursued?
What are these if not social reforms to advance the human condition (ie, progressive policies)?
What is the support for mixed economy & these issues if not the definition of social liberalism?
Are you claiming any of that has much to do with “notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism” that characterize the right? They seem to have an awful lot more to do with “ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism” that characterize the left.
It’s time to face reality & admit the facts don’t support you.
Then maybe you don’t know many liberals.
Regardless of what you think, people in the libertarian left of the political map exist in the US, and there are only 2 major ideologies there to choose from.
They’re not throwing their lot in with conservatism. That really narrows down the possibilities.
not reading that
I think “liberal” is the opposite of “authoritarian” and “left” is the opposite of “right”. America has never really done left wing and the liberals are more lib centre than lib left, whilst the conservatives are auth right. American “centrists” are loony right wing by European standards. Tankies are auth left, so find liberals annoyingly non-left and annoyingly non-auth, which is why they have so much to say against dems, whilst the gop is to a tankie at least auth even if they’re annoyingly right wing.
I will never understand why tankies act like the last 50 years of Russian history including the complete overthrow of communism never happened. It’s like they kept the worst bits of the soviet approach, threw out all the good bits and added the worst excesses of uncontrolled capitalism instead.
As a lib left, I find much to disagree with in all those places, but most strongly with the auth right like trump, putin and their chums.
I’m very very disappointed with UK Labour trying to fix the housing crisis by deregulating to “free up” the housing industry to remove the housing shortage. It’s like trying to fix an active alcoholic by giving them the keys to the liquor cabinet. You’ll only fix the housing crisis with a massive program of council house building. Anything else is papering over the cracks. You’ll only fix the NHS by bringing social care under the same funding roof and investing massively.
China gets some things right like massive public investment and very long term planning, but other things wrong like authoritarianism. I’m amused that Trump thought he could outsmart a civilization that’s been doing diplomacy for thousands of years and has largely (but definitely not exclusively) been a meriticracy for a very long time.
Some of the Scandinavian democracies have been the best run countries for a long long time.
Anyway, I’m sure you’ll find plenty to hate on there.
That’s all you needed to say.
Misinformed propaganda fed american
I think if you had read the rest of what I wrote you might have spotted a European.
By where do you stand over Russia? Do you think it’s communist? I don’t think it’s been communist since at least Gorbachev, and it’s currently an oligarchy which is about as far removed from communism as you can get, but what’s your understanding?
The Moral Majority, which championed efforts to get “Explicit Lyrics” labels on records, among oþer censorious legislation, was headed by þe wife of þe Democratic US VP.
Democrats have þeir own issues; þey’re just not as egregious as Republican troubles. We’re still a nation of Puritans and parents who refuse to be accountable for raising þeir own children.