Hey, anyone care to explain what the fuck is wrong with Denmark?
It’s sort of funny they have the reputation as one of the least corrupt countries in the world. It’s funny because when you say that something is incapable of being vulnerable in some way, that means at the very least that they are fertile grounds waiting to invite it.
The public does not consider corruption a major problem in Danish society means those that are corrupt can get away with more because of less supervision. The OCDE has serious concerns about the lack of enforcement of bribery paid by Danish companies abroad and the Danske Bank money laundering scandal, which was the largest money laundering scandal ever in Europe and possibly the largest in world (at least until the Trump era), involved - you guessed it - Russian (among other USSR remnants) money laundering. Denmark will do what is good for Denmark, but Denmark is not the EU.
They’ve always been the weird ones
The Meeting was today at 10am. Has there been any news about it yet?
I too am very interested
For fuck saks. This is so deceitful
I will move to Linux phone if chat control is enforced. Chat control violates all existing privacy regulations. It’s insane.
That won’t work in the sense on page 35, Article 2 definition (f) it says that this applies to
(ii)an interpersonal communications service; (iv) an internet access service;as well, meaning your phone provider and ISP. It’s highly the approach to enforce this would couple e-SIM and some app on your phone or computer that things have to be routed through. Or you just don’t get cell/internet service.
This has not yet happened even in the most authoritarian jurisdictions, with the possible exception of North Korea. The Internet is built with open protocols so any restrictions will have to be implemented on the network edge. There is no vendor locking for on-prem routers in multiple countries. As long as all purpose computers are not illegal you can still use strong encryption and anonymizing services on your end devices on your own network. So any mandatory surveillance and tracking will have no power there.
I would be happy to be wrong.
The entire “proposal” is absolutely crazy from start to finish anyway. It’s just that these companies will have to do ______ or be labeled or held liable for aiding in the distribution of CP.
Who knows what they will come up with.
Such a tech restriction would instantly kill hotspot capability of a phone. Not that I think they corrupt traitors in the EU wouldn’t want to try it anyways.
You’re lucky if you don’t depend on apps such as banking apps or Ryanair digital boarding passes
I use hardware TAN generators but my bank’s app works on LineageOS and GrapheneOS. If my travel service doesn’t accept printed out documents then it is not a travel service I will use.
That is a problem for future Melroy. Hopefully some apps can just be used in a web app, so just going to their website.
I also read about android virtualization within a container. Basically allowing you to still run android apps but we will see…
We’re going to need a sanctioned phone just for banking and another one for everything else. Plus maybe a third one to take to demonstrations etc. Just great :(
Do not take a mobile device on demonstrations if you can’t verify it respects airplane mode. E.g. GOS does, but I’m not aware of any other such.
If we have the will to fight this every 5 minutes, we should have the will to make it so we don’t keep having to. Winning the same battle over and over isn’t victory; it’s just giving the enemy more time and opportunity to define the terms of your defeat.
This is getting comically ridiculous and I’m tired, but I suppose that’s the point.
they won’t stop until they are deposed.
It is the point. It should be a won war not just a won battle. And I, personally, am already preparing for the final loss. Which is inevitable IMHO.
OK so how do we do that
A law banning the entire attempt to even crate such laws.
I suggest something more physical.
perhaps a certain french invention
Or the Russian one involving not a Microsoft product.
Switch to mesh networks could be an idea. It is not that difficult to send messages with bluetooth, problem is adoption: a system like that works only if there are many people using it.
I would bet my right nut on the real reason for all this is some AI-billionaire who aggressively pushes this with moneyz. Having every fart we make soon be analyzed by AI is the best “natural” training there could be.
As a cherry on top is the total surveillance for the state(s). AI will probably do a decent job (despite what the article says) in scanning for potential “threats” to let actual people check.
But I can’t even comprehend the power that would be needed to actually scan every shit by every person every minute. No data center in the world has this oomph. So it has to be a simple keyword-search (in all possible languages, even leetspeek and co?) To forward to ai. And if ai would just report 0.5% as “suspicious” for manual human control, it would be more supermassive than a black hole. This is just not doable and hence defeats it’s fake reason: protecting the kids.
So that kinda just leaves ai-training and selective easy surveillances without court-orders. Which also won’t protect kids. As every criminal out there will find a loophole.
Can we please stop circlejerking AI into everything? The chat control has been in debate before AI was mainstream
All the current powers that be, private and governmental, can heartily agree that allowing the public to have any expectation of privacy or autonomy is highly undesirable.
Like trying to control une herde de la chats
