Generative “AI” data centers are gobbling up trillions of dollars in capital, not to mention heating up the planet like a microwave. As a result there’s a capacity crunch on memory production, shooting the prices for RAM sky high, over 100 percent in the last few months alone. Multiple stores are tired of adjusting the prices day to day, and won’t even display them. You find out how much it costs at checkout.

  • vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 hours ago

    RAM is not really expensive. You get enough RAM for most tasks the use of which you can understand, as a fraction of the normal amount for any machine.

    You can load a can’t stress how good planetary map into RAM wholly, without paging it.

    Many text editors today just load the whole file into RAM.

    That there’s much demand from some other side - oh yes.

    BTW, I just got a thought that this might be aimed at hurting China and East Asia in general, when the bubble pops, in the west it’ll be just investors losing what they deserve to lose, but in East Asia it’ll be actual production rebuilt for the bubble dying in pains.

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      7 hours ago

      What? You might want to proof read that. The only thing I got from your text is that text editors load an entire file into memory, which has been the case for decades unless you go with a special purpose editor.

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        Many text editors today just load the whole file into RAM.

        been the case for decades

        One data point: emacs normally loads the whole file, unless you’re using the vlf package or similar.

        TECO and ed might not. Dunno.

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          Ed and sed don’t load the entire file in, but vim does. Not heard of TECO before 😄

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            TECO’s kinda-sorta emacs’s parent in sorta the same way that ed kinda-sorta is vi’s parent.

            I compiled and tried out a Linux port the other day due to a discussion on editors we were having on the Threadiverse, so was ready to mind. Similar interface to ed, also designed to run on teletypes.

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        The only thing I got from your text is that text editors load an entire file into memory, which has been the case for decades unless you go with a special purpose editor.

        Holy crap, and these people think they have right to talk about computers.

        You can have a 12G text file, logs, suppose, you are going to load the entire file into memory? And you think it’s normal?

        You might want to proof read that.

        I think you might want to put more effort into reading. This seems to be your weak side.

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          You can load a can’t stress how good planetary map into RAM wholly

          This is the part people are struggling with, because it’s probably 3 difference sentences mashed together, whether in your head, by your fingers or by an autocarrot, but regardless its completely incomprehensible as a result

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            Ah. OK. So I speak a language, where such constructions are a bit more normal, except commas and dashes are used more generously, and synthetic grammar helps.

            “You can fit a (can’t stress how good) planetary map into RAM wholly” might be a bit better? Anyway. OK, they’re struggling. They are choosing a weird way to inform me of what.

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            So in how many languages do you write, and in which of them do you write better than I sometimes do in English? Other than your first one.

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              So you bring out “this is my second language” after telling someone else “you might want to put more effort into reading”. No, that does not fly. You put “sorry, English is my second language” first. Lashing out like that is not a good look.

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          Holy crap, and these people think they have right to talk about computers.

          By your own logic, considering how you wrote your first comment, you should not have the right to talk at all

          just read it again lmao

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          You can have a 12G text file, logs, suppose, you are going to load the entire file into memory?

          That’s actually done via journalctl today, most of the time. Which extracts the logs out from a database instead of a text file. It has some useful features, such as slicing a specific time interval from the logs.

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            Yes, that’s very nice when you are already storing that something in a database. I said “suppose”.

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          6 hours ago

          Are you regularly opening up 12 gig log files in a text editor? Personally I’d use something like elasticsearch or less/grep for a local file.

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            It’s convenient to keep positions of many things, have marks, make comparisons. Ideally have multiple windows looking at the same file.