• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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      8 hours ago

      This is literally leftymemes, what are you even doing here??

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        I mean it does represent the soviet union, a brutal dictatorship. Though I don’t think there’s a better symbol

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          The hammer and sickle is used by practically every socialist movement. What sort of leftist doesn’t know that??

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            I know. It’s just that it was originally created by the soviet union.

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              8 hours ago

              The nation that created the most successful iteration of socialism ever…

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                  3 hours ago

                  If we mention China, the libs here are gonna be even more pissed. Baby steps.

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                you have got to be kidding me. Tankies gonna tankie i guess

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                  As an Anarchist even I have to acknowledge that to date the Soviet Union has been the most successful socialist state, of course I am also of the belief that if the Republicans won in Catalonia or the Anarchists in Ukraine they would have established far more successful implementations of socialism. Still the fact remains that the Soviet Union was by all metrics available successful and even until the very end the majority of people in nearly every SSR supported keeping the Soviet Union alive (if not with reforms), they suffered CIA and western backed reactionary rebellions and I don’t belive any other socialist state would have handled it any better

                  (yes according to polling made by the reactionaries to gage how much the Soviet population wanted to end to the Soviet Union the majority did not, they promptly ignored the results)

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                    None of your fam is from there probably

                    How would you know that?

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                  Name a more successful iteration of socialism. I’ll wait. You seem very confident about this lol.

                  Edit: they were never heard from again 🤣

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          Claiming to be an anarchist and insist we use flags is peak irony. Never met an anarchist that thinks nations should even exist. Your beliefs are incoherent.

          Claiming the most popular socialist symbol is a fake leftist symbol is a bit rich. I guess real leftism is posturing about anarchism online lol.

          You haven’t broken out of your CIA education even. Fascinating.

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            i don’t see someone demanding you comply with their worldview, i see someone giving you advice on how to be a more effective communicator, and therefor recruiter. class-based politics is all about solidarity with the working people, and for a lot of working people the hammer and sickle represents the capital holders that opressed them. leftists operating in post-soviet countries go out of their way to ensure that it’s clear that their politics align with Nestor Mahkno and not Vladimir Lenin. they are still communists, but they very universally identify as anarchists because the goal is not to revive the soviet union which dissappeared their relatives, but instead bring about a true post-state world.

            they do this not because they haven’t broken out of their CIA poison but because the hammer and sickle was representative of a system of authoritarianism that was left wing in aesthetic only