I love how they say “next year” like that was the expected release date to begin with.
Gonna get Senior Citizen before full release Star Citizen
Note that Duke Nukem Forever released (poorly) before this travesty.
What you can play right now in Star Citizen is arguably better than what Duke Nukem Forever will ever be.
I can somehow understand the people who funded it in the first place, but who invests now in a project which has already been in development hell for more than a decade and produced barely anything playable. Every whale has already been milked - what return of investment can an investor expect of Star Citizen?
Average Store Citizen player
We just need to buy another ship guise, they’re so close to release!
I am ashamed to admit that I fell for the scam. It was 2019, and Pyro was right around the corner (except it wasn’t, and wouldn’t make it into the game until 2025). They showed off jump points with a super amazing megastructure ring, an in depth economy simulation, and lots of other really interesting stuff that has still not made it into the game.
Over time, I began to realize I had been scammed. The game just continued to be broken and lacking in features, update after update. Eventually I had enough and sold my account for good in 2024, with the 4th consecutive year of failing to deliver Pyro Since then, I have continued to check in and have not once regretted my decision to cash out of the scam. It is still a buggy and unfun mess. They have scaled back their projections for 1.0 from 100 systems to 5. Their idea of science and exploration is “go here and scan”. It is a shell of the game that was promised years ago, and will never be able to live up to the hype. Overpromise and underdeliver is their mantra.
They have scaled back their projections for 1.0 from 100 systems to 5.
Wow is that the first realistic thing they’ve done?
2016, for me. 42 was supposed to release the next year…such a scam…
Squadron was just another turd on the dumpster fire for me. I didn’t back the project for it, but the fact that it’s been “two years away” for the last decade +, is just another indicator of how much of a scam this thing is. I will be seriously shocked if they manage to finally push it out the door next year, and even more shocked if it is not a totally shit show. There’s no way it lives up to how insanely high it has been hyped up, and I’m just going to be chowing down on popcorn when the shit hits the fan.
yeah but how sick is the game gonna be after $1 billion in funding
Now imagine it being double that good for just $2 billion!
$1 billion !?
That is insane.
Elite Dangerous had a budget of £8m… if Cloud Imperium Games can’t release SC for a hundred times that amount it’s because it’s a grift.
it’s because it’s a grift.
Always has been.
Look at the price of those ships you can buy, its always looked like a very obvious attempt to keep rolling in money while always juuuuuuust being a bit too far away to release. But just give us a few more million and we’ll toooootally release it.
You did a reverse EriKa KirK there. I think you meant “grift” not “gift”
I did indeed.
I blame Samsung’s appalling autocorrect.
so ducking annoying
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Probably want to get a different keyboard then (one that doesn’t send them everything you type, for one)
Game development as a service.
I’ve played elite dangerous for 4k hours. Done everything there is to do in that game. Had a great time. Glad I chose that game instead of the SC scam.
That’s cause Star Citizen is a grift.
Never preorder.
The fun thing is looking into history… especially the one of Freelancer. It would never have been released if it weren’t for Jörg Neumann who - in short - finished it.
100% selling hopes and dreams. I understand there’s a playable alpha, I was a backer for over a decade. There is no cohesive vision, just endless theory crafting and half baked implementations to maintain the illusion of progress, but every time they add something, they seemingly need to break something else for their 8 ticks-per-second system to be able to handle it…
Hell of a grift.
I have fun. You don’t have to pay more than the 45 € beginner pack, if you don’t want to. Its still rough but you can see how the pieces start fitting together.
“Hey come pay yesteryear’s AAA title price for a game that’s been overpromising and underdelivering for the better part of the past two decades” is not the sales pitch you think it is…
Sunk cost fallacy is a bitch. One must be severely delusional to think that after paying however much you did AND waiting for 12+ years, having a barely playable alpha when the original timeline was for a 2015 release AND it’s still being promised for a 2027 release (which, given the state of the alpha, is likely to be missed too), this is in any way acceptable.
How much of a financial investment do you think €45 is over 10+ years? It’s nothing. There’s literally no sunk cost fallacy here
Holy delulu. The fact that you didn’t get anything for over 12 years AND you still protect the company AND urge others to invest is proof of the fallacy here. The inability to admit you’ve been scammed. That you didn’t get what you’ve been promised over and over and over.
Didn’t get anything for over 12 years? Shite, I gotta tell my friends we’ve gotten nothing out of the months of game time we’ve put into the game the last couple of years, especially these past 12 months. CIG has been scamming us with countless hours of gameplay!
Bruh lmao
Where did I urge anyone to buy the game? Or protect the company for that matter?
You don’t have to pay more than the 45 € beginner pack
That’s an absolutely obscene ask for an eight-year-old game with no prospects of being finished in the foreseeable future – let alone that it has macrotransactions for things like paints and intentionally puts you at a disadvantage to players who paid hundreds of euros for this stupid piece of shit grift.
nah it’s not pay to win. it’s not hard to earn in-game money and buy ships with that
Eh,depending on which state the “economy” is in, it can be pretty hard. There’s threads all over spectrum about how Grundy and broken things always are.
If there was much game to actually win, I would definitely call it pay to win.
I’ve watched the pieces “start fitting together” for like 14 years now… There is fun to be had, but it’s an ocean wide and an inch deep imo. SC stopped being fun for me the moment I realized most of the fun I was having was imagining hypotheticals to pass the time while fighting their shit product to function in some meaningful way. This becomes especially painful when you see all of the effort is supposedly going into a single-player game that we’ve barely seen while they fail to deliver an acceptably functional version of the product we actually play and use the ships we payed money for in…
It has other massive problems with the company’s motives. For example: why balance the game to incorporate cohesive and effective multicrew ships, and sell 1 person a 725$(CAD) ship (hammerhead) to invite 6 other people to crew, when they can leave it’s future balance a dream and have everyone in OP F8s (or whatever the current light fighter “meta” ship is at the moment) for 260$ each… 725$ dollar multicrew ship, or 1,820$ in light fighters. hrmmmmm A Hammerhead should melt light fighters according to it’s stated purpose when sold, but it’s been effectively useless for years and years now, as one very clear example of what’s going on overall.
Multicrew will NEVER BE FUN until they’re done milking their base, and they’ll never be done milking their base.
Doesn’t matter that you can try the game for free several times a year either. Stop having fun! Grrrrr!
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I’ll wait thanks, I have not paid that much in a game all year and don’t intend to start now on something so unfinished.
Agreed, IIRC they have a free weekend every now and then. A couple of years back I gave it a spin, realized what I wasn’t missing, and went back to Elite Dangerous and No Man’s Sky. You know, working space games…
Yeah, NMS and ED are both fun. Though I have found after a while each game becomes “now what?” kinda thing. I have played other sandbox games but in those I struggle to find much purpose in doing anything.
Expanding factions could give long term purpose but it doesn’t really give you anything. Maybe if you got access to a factions finances a bit and could more directly control them, faction owned fleet super carriers kind of thing?
Yup, very much make your own activities games, but both continue to grow. NMS especially just keeps bashing out free updates (Best Ongoing Game again at this years The Game Awards) and has monthly or so expeditions for the new things if you need more direction. Corvettes went over well.
Has NMS been speeding up the pace of new updates too?
I swear I last played it only a few years ago, but now I count 17 new updates after that
Think so ? I put these games down for a while and come back later, explore the new content, muck around for a while, and put them down again… Love 'em both, but not all the time.
True, NMS is certainly doing better at adding new stuff
I bought a $60 ship back in 2013 or whatever and have only tried it a few times since.
I would definitely recommend waiting for when - and if - it comes out as a polished product.
Most of the limited number of projects I backed on Kickstarter have succeeded, but Star Citizen is one of the two lessons I learned about throwing early money at big projects. Can’t believe it’s been over twelve years.
I played this game more than i played red dead redemption for example. Like way more, and it was cheaper. 1 billion is insane, everyone knows that. But there are crypto and nft games that gobblet up 250millions and it’s just a standard asset pack made by a guy in a week and there isn’t as much of an outrage, because people just want to be mad.
You’re part of the problem.
People still contribute to this scam? That‘s a shame.
Lmao.
Even my non-gamer wife knows about the scam that is SC. Honestly, at least it’s just whales who fall for it, who had too much money undeservedly either way. 🤷
Goddamn just come play EVE, we have crime, pretty ships, and hilarity
You have a sandbox for griefers. Nota chance in hell. Eve is not even remotely close to similar except it too grifts players
I mean in EVE, it’s the players that grift each other mostly. That’s why it’s called EvE, or Everyone vs Everyone
Elite dangerous is a blast for a while. And it has vr.
I haven’t played since before you could go and walk around, but for what it is I loved it for a while.
Wide as an ocean and deep as a puddle but it takes a long while to notice the lack of depth and it’s a blast to pop in your vr headset and some good country trucking music and just hop around the galaxy trading.
SC now has VR too
Yeah, but ED is a full game, not some decade old alpha scam that has no actual plan and is a living definition of scope creep and customer milking.
I really wanted to get into Store Citizen back in the early 2010s, but thankfully I clocked the grift early before I put any time or money into it.
Started EVE in like 2009, now I find it just ends up taking so much time to do anything. Never been into 1v1 PvP but do like small to medium groups, but that can take so much time to get and you might not even find anything.
So it ends up with you sitting there for ages with nothing going on, then When it does start to get interesting sorry gotta drop off to go to bed.
I think Anvil Empires might scratch a similar itch for me, while being a bit easier to drop in/out. Albion Online is one I tried too but barely even got into much PvP, maybe I should try again. I like cheap builds really, don’t want to grind for hours to lose it all in 1 go. Not sure how cheap you can reasonably go in AO.
No flying though. I’m looking for airplanes in space and sometimes SC can scratch that itch but E:D is the better product.
Like you literally cannot “fly” your damn spaceship, you have to use a point and click interface (at least the last time I checked). I wish SC was a good product and I’ll be sad the day E:D goes offline but EVE is definitely not it for me.
edit: E:D is elite dangerous for people that don’t know what the fuck all these space dorks are talking about
I am waiting to play star citizen until full release. I assume I will never play star citizen.
Gonna get Senior Citizen before full release Star Citizen
I stopped buying beta games since one repeatedly broke some great mods, the modder gave up.
