lemm.ee has shut down at 00:14 UTC.
unfortunately I realized too late that I have had hundreds of saved links to posts and comments from there, so I did not have enough time to save them, but anyways it is interesting that maybe a third of the post links I could try were dead. I think linkrot is happening much faster here than on reddit, even if just counting deleted posts.
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Damn, since I saw the warning thread I was hurrying my slow ass to back up my stuff, which I gladly did (some days ago), lemmy.zip is my new home now.
I feel sorry for the users that didn’t get the chance to backup their stuff… An auto backup feature for Lemmy backend might be worth checking out perhaps?
It’ll be greatly missed. It was nice to have an instance with a reasonable defederation policy where I could interact with anyone basically.
Nice for you, bad for the mods. Only way to do that without outsourcing mental strain to other people is to self host
RIP home server, you will be missed
I’m sure I was sufficiently notified, but I am not big on reading updates on ny instace, so this came as a surpise just now.
Thanks for the server! Onwards to the next!
🫡 you were good to us .ee, may you forever rest in peace.
It was my first home. I thank them for bringing me in.
Goodbye ee
You were waiting for this one for a month, aren’t you? :)
Hello world, lemmee refugee here, & first post on piefed! I had exported my settings before the ship went down, figured we could import it in another instance to save my comments and communities, but I don’t see any option to import here. Does piefed speak with Lemmy yet it’s not part of Lemmy?
Piefed speaks to Lemmy instances, yes.
You can import data here: https://piefed.social/user/settings/import_export
Deleting your account deletes your content, unlike deleting your Reddit account. Hence the linkrot.
I learnt pretty early on that saving posts using the save button was not a good way to save the information 😮💨
Not quite. If your comments federated out to an instance that either a) doesn’t get the delete request or b) ignores the delete request, your comments will very much stay out there in the fedeverse with not much you can do. Yes posts on the original instance may be gone, but anything that get pushed out via ActivityPub is a crap shoot.
Yes with ActivityPub there’s always failed federation. But Lemmy will send the delete request out when you delete your account. Other software or instances might not honour it, but the intent is there.
As opposed to reddit who do not remove comments when an account is deleted, only mark it as a comment from a deleted account.
I’m not against Lemmy’s implementation, but it does require you to collect information you need at the time not assume it will always be there.
Ah, I get where you’re going with that and understand your view. My point was more for users who think that deleting an account will really get rid of it everywhere and I didn’t want them getting their hopes up.
That’s weird. I moved over from lemm.ee and transferred data. The saved posts transferred too.
No that’s expected, as part of your profile info. But if the original authors delete the comments, then they will also be deleted in your saved items.
Ah got it!
Yeah bookmarks are a lot better than using specific save systems
Bookmarks won’t help if the content gets removed. You’ve got to copy the important information elsewhere.
I tend to use either a note app (Joplin) or a self-hosted wiki for that.
Out of the loop, why did they shut down?
Not enough admins, and those there were burnt out.
The linkrot is real but not unexpected when anyone can spin up and shut down instances. Nothing is forever
It’s mostly not because of instance shutdown though. especially on lemmy, because lots of posts are readable elsewhere after shutdown.
I was literally filling out an application for another server when it went down. Sad day.
Unfortunately I waited too long and now I can’t see my subs that I wanted to migrate.
this you? https://lemmy.zip/u/[email protected]
Yep thats me!
I think linkrot is happening much faster here than on reddit, even if just counting deleted posts.
Are you sure? Are lemm.ee posts showing as deleted for you? It looks like the copies of anything posted to lemm.ee still exist on the instances that it was federated with. Try this link [email protected], I am pretty sure it should still work on your instance.
It’s not all the lemm.ee posts, just a significant amount of them.
also in the meantime I realized my hundreds of lemm.ee links are not actually links to lemm.ee hosted posts, but just links to the lemm.ee view of them. I was just very often copying the wrong link that still worked, but wasn’t the definitive one
speaking of that, there was a userscript that is able to find the same post on other instances, I should look it up, in case it can also work with posts of offline instances
it should, as long as the post was synchronized in the past…
https://lemmy.zip/c/[email protected]
seekms your username was different on lemm.ee:
Awesome. Zip managed to cache my ee account so I can at least refer back to any place I posted or commented off of ee. Wonder how long it’ll keep it for
hmm that’s interesting because I did not have a lemm.ee account! :Djust 3 tons of links to it.edit: I misunderstood it, no I didn’t have an account there
also in the meantime I did some research. it turns out I was probably remembering the Lemmy Universal Link Switcher userscript: https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/469273-lemmy-universal-link-switcher
it can look up posts by their activitypub id, which is the de-facto ID of a post, that is same across all instances. this ID is the url of the content on the original instance. so, the following could be an activitypub id, if the post was actually created on lemm.ee: https://lemm.ee/post/64477597
to look up a post by this, the userscript uses the
/api/v3/resolve_objectAPI endpoint.
it searches your local instance, and if you are authenticated it also queries the host in the url, lemm.ee in this example. but of course this remote query does not work anymore.now here comes the twist. I know I always read lemmy through sh.itjust.works, so whatever I saved should be known by this server. and the link that I save, often does not point to the origin instance, because clients work that way.
so it seems 2 lemm.ee links that I tried to look up were not actually posted there, because bmy server does not know a post that has this ap id, I just somehow got a link that points to the lemm.ee version of that post or comment…Fortunately the messaging app I misuse for link collection always loads the title and image of the webpage, so by some manual work I should be able to find the actual links to each of them.
$ curl -sw'\n' \ https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/resolve_object?q=https%3A%2F%2Fsh.itjust.works%2Fcomment%2F19488525 \ | jq -r '.comment.comment.content' | head -n 1 ~~hmm that's interesting because I did not have a lemm.ee account! :D~~ just 3 tons of links to it. $Edit to add: Lemmy seems to URL-encode ‘
:’ and ‘/’ sometimes :/
o7
