• FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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    That’s what I’ve been saying. If your utilities were out for a month, you wouldn’t be paying, why should people have to pay for government services they haven’t been getting for over a month

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    Generations of conservative politicians have sold Americans the idea that government can and should be run like a business. That if it were run like a business it would be sunshine and rainbows with low taxes, and high quality services. Many people do genuinely believe this.

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    In the US you should not pay taxes at all. Rebel. Overthrow the fascists. Behead the billionaires and lock up the Epstein clients.

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    That should absolutely happen. But instead the only consequence seen is for vulnerable people who had zero hand in the decision.

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    Yes you should pay 39 days in taxes less, steal yourself the money used to build roads, schools and stuff like that, that will really show them !

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      Psh, we don’t do anything but kill brown people with that money, well, and pay for Trump to golf.

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    The government isn’t a subscription service or a company.

    I can’t deal with Americans’ ultracapitalist perspective on the res publica. It’s so annoying.

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      Taxes are a fee for government services. People shouldn’t pat fir services they aren’t getting. They deserve at least a partial refund

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      You accidentally just explained why it’s incredibly unacceptable for the government to be shut down.

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      But what non-dysfunctional government that doesn’t behave like it is a subscription service shuts down regularly?

      This forces OP to asking themselves (albeit somewhat jokingly) this kind of question. Why should they be a proud contributing member of a society when the body receiving these contributions does not properly perform their contribution to society? Is it really only an American who might ask themselves such a question?

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        But what non-dysfunctional government that doesn’t behave like it is a subscription service shuts down regularly?

        A well-functioning government never shuts down, let alone regularly.

        That doesn’t mean that the people should forgo their contribution to shared civilization, though.

        The current kakistocracy misappropriating funds doesn’t mean that the parts of the government they haven’t ruined doesn’t need tax revenue.

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          As an American, while I can’t tell you if this OP is serous, I can tell you there are many here that do feel that way

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            I’m Canadian and I agree with OP. if any service I was paying for was gone for a month and I was still billed for it, I’d call the company and demand a refund. Of course, I’d have the ability to threaten to cut ties with the company and get service elsewhere. Unfortunately, that isn’t an easy option with government services.

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    There’s no legal precedent for this, but I definitely would follow that journey if someone did try to do something like this through proper channels lol.

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    As long as you’ve been paying your taxes, you can set fed withholdings to $0 until the shutdown is over. Go a couple years without paying, and the Fed has probably set your withholding for you by now.

    You’ll still owe income tax, but this stops giving them an interest free loan trump will just blow thru.

    Ideally I’d like to see blue states coordinate it for their citizens, just so it’s all sitting in a big find that the state can use as a carrot to reopen the fed.

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      Yeahhh you’ll get slapped with penalties for this though.

      iirc you could pay your taxes once a quarter but longer than that and there are fines.

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        No…

        That’s why I said what I said…

        Thanks for taking the time to make a reply telling everyone your guess instead of, i dunno…

        You taking two second to check yourself?

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        Oh, it sounds like it?

        Did you think of checking yourself before just fucking guessing someone was wrong and making a comment?

        Like, imagine hearing someone say something on the Internet, and not being sure if they’re right…

        So you just fucking guess in a comment and wait four fucking hours to see if the original person will reply back.

        Instead of you taking the two seconds to check before making that comment.

        What the fuck is wrong with people?

        Just willfully and proudly ignorant.

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    A while back someone on Facebook was complaining about some funeral or something being paid for by taxes and my response was “I’ll send you your nickel if you shut up”

    My point is the same here. Even if you got a 39 day refund i wouldn’t be that much. How much federal taxes are you really paying per day?

    Edit: im not telling you to shut up btw. Im just saying tax is like at 10 percent right? Minus out the cost for the services that are functioning still. Like schools and police and what not… how much is left to be refunded?I’ve also gotten refunds for outages before and they are normally pretty small as well.

    Last edit: I was just thinking the reason I probably call a refund kinda silly is because I don’t really mind paying taxes. I don’t like how the taxes are used all the time but I don’t really want the money back. I want it used for food and libraries and shit. I don’t want a 39 day refund, I want the parks opened. So that’s probably why i think refunds for it are kinda silly. Taxes aren’t the problem.

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        See the thing about percentages is the amount changes but the relevance to you doesn’t.

        10k for a month is the amount you would expect back after the cost of police, schools, military, and every other functioning service has been taken out of the amount?

        Then you’re making enough money to not be concerned about that 10,000. You’d be losing more money taking time out of your busy day to fill out the hypothetical refund paperwork.

        Wouldn’t you rather been on your yacht than fighting with the government over principle? Wouldn’t you earn more discussing investment opportunities with your financial advisor?

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        Dude even if your tax rate is 50%, that means you still earn like 7k per month. That’s so rich, I wouldn’t even know what to do with that amount (except pay off my house loan in like 3 months instead of 3 years lol)