Finally making the transition from Windows to a Linux. I’m pretty sure it’s been asked several times but which Linux OS would you recommend a beginner to use? I’ve seen Ubuntu and Mint as a good start. Not looking to do much. Game here and there (not too worried about Linux compatibility), streaming, editing videos. If I break any rules. I’m sorry.

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    If you’re not looking to do much you might be better off with one of the immutable variants (silver blue, aurora, bazzite). The upside is things are not supposed to break too much. The downside is if it breaks almost any existing instructions on the internet prior to maybe 2022 will fuck the system up more. Tbh Linux changes so fast that’s true for most variants, but you can reach back to maybe 2018 before you start to hit system-breaking legacy instructions.

    Mint isn’t a good choice, but if you want a generally straightforward system that looks like Mac (gnome) or windows (KDE) then fedora is a good choice.

    None of these options will be as secure by default as a Mac or windows machine – you will have to do a lot of learning and be generally technically inclined to get there. The immutable OSs will give you a small leg up there, just because you’re running less random shit from the internet as admin/root, but the Linux community hates Intel and Microsoft so much it’s taken a lonnnngggg time to adopt standard security techniques, mostly resting on their laurels from decades past. Will you get viruses? Probably not. But just because nobody broke in doesn’t mean leaving your door unlocked is secure.

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    If you are pretty sure this been asked several times, why the fuck do you post this shit again? Real answer, you don’t have the balls to make the change, instead, you are here looking for validation from internet strangers. Just stick to windows or better yet get a mac, is more suited for stupid people like you.

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      What goes inside your mind to say things like that, to other people. The might or might not have been seeking an advice, but you’re just acting like a buffoon nonetheless, and also a horrible take.

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    Lots of people are going towards ZorinOS, since Windows died with the canning of W10. However, I’d say go for Mint, as that doesn’t implement the Snap packaging format (if you need GUI apps, go for Flatpak if you want them sandboxed).

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    Mint is the OS of choice for beginners. It’s hassle free and it just works. Ubuntu is good, but its snap package got a bad rap when it was launched. It’s not that bad. But it gets confusing since you end up with 3 different software packaging systems. (Apt with .deb files, Flatpak and Snap)

    Personally I use Kubuntu, the KDE Plasma desktop version because it’s so much more like Windows and has many more features. I don’t mind the Snap packages, but I avoid them if I can if I can use Flatpak instead. Snap and Flatpak are essentially the same thing: it installs and runs software in a sandboxed environment which makes it safer to use.

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    Mint 100% to start with, install Nvidia drivers if you have an Nvidia graphics card. Install and run a game though Steam or whatever and if all the hardware works and you can get the refresh rate you want you’re good to go.

    If not, install Fedora KDE and do the same.

    If you still have issues on Fedora make another post here with some hardware details and say what you tried.

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      Just a question: why fedora KDE? I’ve used fedora for a few years but always with gnome. Really liked it. What would be the advantage with KDE? Or what actually is the difference ?

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    Linux is linux. In the end it’s more your personal taste with just a little sprinkle of use case that decides.

    The main differences are:

    • Update speed: How quickly are the repositories getting updates. That’s a spectrum between getting cutting edge version in days or weeks or having things unchaged for up to several years. Or in other worlds you will see more bugs in freshly released software, but also bugfixes often within days. Compared to getting new feature only after years, but rarely any bugs (the very few ones that slip through… well, you will get the fix in a few years). That’s also where use case plays a bigger role. If you use very new hardware and want software that uses their newest features, a rather stale slow updating distro might not be the right fit for you.

    • Update scheme: Fixed vs. continues release. Continues releases are slowly but constantly changing over time but once installed they can basically used forever. While fixed releases are mostly just shipping critical bugfixes and security patches and doing everything else in big release steps (think in terms of Windows upgrades here: You mostly have the same thing for years but at a certain point there is a newer version that might bring changes in defaults, new pre-installed software, UI changes etc. and after a couple of years you lose support if you don’t do that step).

    Also more depending on your personal taste and habits:

    • How much are you willing or interested in tinkering? Basically all distros give you access to all software. But what is pre-installed changes, both in what is provided by default and also how much software is there already. For example do you want stuff for video editing set up already or don’t you care as you will test out all the options available anyway?

    • The same is true the basic desktop environment. Gnome and KDE are the two big ones (with some more oftens based or forked from those two). And it mostly a difference of “here is our environment exactly as we think it’s best with very little customisation” (Gnome - also the one with most forks, by people who did not agree with the Gnome devs vision) and “have fun customising” (KDE). Is customising stuff to your liking your thing? Or do don’t care and also prefer something as close to what you are used to on Windows? Again: Distros have all the options available. But some have one environment or the other pre-installed. Or they come in different flavors from the beginning. If customisation isn’t your cup of tea the decision on a certain distro matters much more.

    Other considerations:

    • Immutable distros are more on the newer end of things. They are basically designed more like for example Android. There is a base system that rarely changes and allows basically a “reset ot factory settings”, with updates and additionally installed software provided as incremental changes and/or highly containerised. That has benefits (you can revert screw ups easily) but also drawbacks (decades of available linux instructions are now worthless until you really understand where that regular config file you can’t edit anymore is now located in some separate container only used by one specific piece of software - and most people that google for such solutions don’t). Again this is mostly decided by habits. Are you expecting to tinker with your system or do you just want something that works on its own that neither you or an upgrade cannot possibly break. In the latter case an immutable distro can be the thing for you. And as always… you have all the options and you can also setup most other distros with extensive systems of “save points” to revert problematic changes anyway.

    Things to not consider:

    • ignore the answers speaking about “it provides WINE for running windows stuff” or “it comes with NVIDIA drivers” because they basically all do (minus the already mentioned combination of running cutting edge hardware with very slow updating distros - that’s not a good idea). At the worst it usually requires clicking some “Yes, I don’t insist on open source stuff exclusively but will also to use proprietary drivers if available” checkbox in the installer.
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    Aurora, it’s the desktop version of massively popular Bazzite (which targets gaming). That means you’ll find tons of up to date tutorials online (Bazzite tutorials are usually applicable unless they are about the few features Bazzite and Aurora diverge specifically).

    I explicitly advise against Ubuntu and Mint for the reasons I outlined here. Ubuntu and Mint have the added downside that almost none of the guides you’ll find about SteamOS will work: Different desktop, different philosophy.

    People need to realize that since the success of Steam Deck the “old classics” of newbie recommendations are out of the window and what helps these users the most is a Linux distribution as close as possible to SteamOS but SteamOS is not available for random PCs, so Bazzite/Aurora are currently the way to go. Personally I like Fedora KDE but I shifted my stance since the linked post and trying out Aurora.

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      Immutable distros aren’t really that great yet due to the way they force certain things down one’s throat. I’d say I’d recommend one if I were in a mental asylum for a long time, but that’s just me.

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        Wow, that seems like a rather hostile take on the matter if I’ve ever seen one. But I feel like you might be conflating stuff OR hurt yourself while trying to force your way on an “immutable” distro.

        After learning the ropes on how to install and manage software, there’s not really much to Bazzite. Unless you somehow happen to be dealing with one of the ever-so-rare-becoming edge-cases it can’t deal with.

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      Just FYI in case you don’t know - SteamOS has changed and is now based on Arch, which means Bazzite is still fundamentally different.

      I personally went with Garuda Linux for two reasons:

      1. SteamOS is Arch based (so is Garuda)
      2. When researching issues, 80% of the time you’ll end up on the Arch Wiki anyway. Might as well use the actual thing.

      Bazzite is probably easier to use for newbies (immutable, relatively stable update windows), but in terms of “I found a guide for SteamOS online on how to get game X working”, Garuda will be much better. Also, Garuda devs included their Rani app, which helps the user take care of the OS, handling a lot of the maintenance.

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        Just FYI in case you don’t know - SteamOS has changed and is now based on Arch, which means Bazzite is still fundamentally different.

        Both are immutable distributions, meaning software installation via Flatpak and Distrobox is exactly the same.

        System-level differences are mostly irrelevant which is a fundamentally different approach from Ubuntu, Mint, etc. where users are expected to juggle with PPAs to get newer drivers on their ancient Ubuntu LTS base.

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      Mint loaded Steam via the package manager and it worked out of the box for me. There have been some games I had to try different versions of Proton with, but I have never found that to be not true for some games.

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        Bazzite is great on desktop

        Absolutely but people not interested in autolaunching Steam and other preinstalled launchers can use Aurora which is just the workstation flavor by the same people.

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    Do you know anyone in real life that has some experience with Linux, and is willing to help you out with it? If yes, use the same distribution (distro, or “OS”) as they do.

    If not, as others said, Mint is a good start.

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      I use KDE neon, I’d never recommend it to my friends though because quirks pop up every now and then and disappear after a couple of weeks.

      I’d tell them to use Kubuntu which is just much more stable and is the same thing without quirks.

      I considering moving to Hyperland on Arch which I’d recommend even less.

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        I shifted from Neon to Kubuntu on my work machine. Figured that Neon was a good shout because it’s the official KDE distro, only to later discover that KDE now consider it to be end of life, and are working on a reacent.

        Kubuntu is basically the same (from my perspective), but has continuing support.

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    Just adding to the numbers recommending Linux Mint. Once it’s set up you don’t really need to fiddle with it much/at all. Software manager is easy to use to find what you need for your tasks.

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      I agree, for a new user everything including installing nvidia drivers is in a GUI. And if you run into issue due to the size of both Mint and its base Ubuntu, searching for the problems usually results in a solution.

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      Mint is also one of the biggest distros which is a factor in getting help. Any problem you may have, chances are, somebody already posted the solution.

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        I should really give mint a try. I like Ubuntu for both of these reasons, even if it does have snaps.

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      I have been using Mint for a long while now, and I’ve been very happy with it. Can’t say I’ve felt the need to try anything else…

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    Bazzite if you want gaming working well without adding packages manually.

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    Mint or Fedora. You’ll get tons of responses, and none of them are wrong, because no one can tell you what’s best for you, but those are the most popular choices among newbies, and they are very user friendly and approachable.

    The best advice I can give you is try a bunch of different ones and see which one you like best. They’re free and easy to reinstall if you end up liking one over another.

    Best of luck and I hope you find one that you truly love. :)

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      I started and ended with mint. Donknow about video editing, but it just worked. It’s like everything windows p should have been. No bs, easy interface, easy to fix. Do it

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    I will be the black sheep that strongly recommend against Mint. I have had more hardware compatibility problems trying to run Mint than any other distro. This is anecdotal, but consistent enough that I would make bets on it. Secondly, I hate Cinnamon, the default desktop environment. There are better choices.

    Instead, I’ll suggest Fedora KDE. It’s rock solid, reliable, and the KDE Plasma desktop is the best currently available whether you leave it stock or customize it.

    If you want to try things out, set up a spare thumb drive with Ventoy, which will let you boot to any ISO you copy to it. Most distros have “live” versions that you can boot to from the thumb drive and try out before installing. That said, most linux distros install in 5 minutes, so don’t be afraid to try anything and everything you’re curious about.

    Also, avoid Cachy or other Arch based distros for now. They are great, but a far more hands-on. Something for the future, when you are more comfortable with linux in general.

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      I have Mint on the 2014 Mac mini I use as a media and Home Assistant server. It was my first dabble with Linux, and I now wish it used Plasma instead of Cinnamon. My other Linux machines are running Kubuntu with Plasma, and they’re great, so logging into Cinnamon always feels like a step backwards somehow.

      I could try changing the DE on it, but I’m not massively proficient, and don’t want to have to set everything back up again if I fuck it up.

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        Mint doesn’t officially support KDE and there are known issues if you do it yourself. You’d be better off switching distros if you like that desktop. Pure Debian + KDE might be a more comfortable move in that situation.

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          Yeah, which is part of what’s stopping me. I can’t really be bothered to spend the time putting everything back as it should be if I bugger it up. Which I will.

          So for now it works and it works very well. And I guess I’ll leave it that way.

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      Its not that bad to start with arch it’s not as hard as it used to be. I started with endeavourOS approximately a year ago and most things just work out of the box and you don’t need to do much and honestly i find it easier than having to navigate layers of abstractions.

      Most of my time went into configuring stuff like hyprland, nvim and other stuff and arch just worked.

      I came with 0 linux knowledge, the only terminal commands i knew were cd and ls and if not for arch I don’t think I would have been hooked on linux. That being said, I get it and sometimes it is frustrating but just putting it out there that it’s doable.

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        I started with EndeavourOS also (earlier this year) and it has been amazing. Also only little bit of Linux knowledge beforehand. Honestly think using a terminal centric distro is helpful for learning.

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      Fedora is a good option. I’m surprised to hear about hardware incompatibilities with Mint, though. Do you have obscure or bleeding-edge hardware?

      I’ll +1 the Ventoy suggestion. Lets you try lots of things easily. Try at least Fedora KDE, Ubuntu, and Mint. Go with whichever feels good to you when you try them out.

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        You don’t really need to be bleeding edge to have some hardware issues or Cinnamon Mint. Their wayland transition is still ongoing so HDR, variable refresh rate, fractional scaling and maybe some bugs for specific hardware might be present. X11 has also seen a lot less love recently after the major distros stopped actively supporting it.

        KDE has nailed the Wayland transition so moving to Fedora KDE would have fixed Wayland/X11 bugs.

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          I guess I would classify features like variable refresh rates and fractional scaling as “advanced”, but that’s fair. I moved from Cinnamon to Gnome because wayland was working better for me, so fair point. I imagine it won’t be too long before Cinnamon catches up, though.

          For now, I’m just using a handful of extensions to make Gnome feel more like Cinnamon. Can’t say I’ve ever been a fan of KDE, but that’s just me.

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      Finally someone else said it.

      Just adding that since they game Bazzite is maybe the better option but still fedora based.

      But I’ve too seen compatibility issues recently with Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros, but not really with Debian based ones (yes, even though Ubuntu is based on Debian). I don’t know why, but even MX has given me less troubles recently than Mint (not that I’d recommend base MX though - I just heavily customized it so that it’s elderly friendly, so people who basically barely can use a browser and have poor eyesight).

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      I moved an older relative to Mint and I regret it. Weird lagging and display server crashes sometimes, probably because of X11. Plus it’s release cycle is very slow, so old packages. Ubuntu is far from my favorite distro, but at least it uses a DE with first class Wayland support.