Edit: Sigh… I got the dystopia wrong. Apparently everyone is apathetic in 1984 of their own free will and just drink, smoke and do morphine.
Brave New World is apathy through euphoria through soma.
Which yeah, drugged euphoria is not happiness.
Which yeah, drugged euphoria is not happiness.
We gotta get you the good stuff.
Brave new world has Soma.
Yes, this has been covered. I made a mistake and rather than edit it I just left it up with my shame. And edited the body text.
Still stand by there is nothing science fiction in 1984 anymore and also that euphoria pills are not happiness. Just 2 separate thoughts my brain mashed together poorly.
Gotcha.
Yes, 1984 is 100% how everything operates now. Anyone who doesn’t see that is pretty dumb.
This isn’t reddit, you can edit titles.
Well that is neat
I’m afraid you’re confusing it with Brave New World
Yes this. And is a drug that makes you happy really science fiction? There are plenty that work on dopamine, serotonin and oxytocin receptors. Though I suppose happiness is something more nebulous and complex than a handful of chemicals.
Feeling happy and being happy are 2 different things.
I agree, that’s a good way to put it
This is how I meant it!
But definitely failed on the apathetic dystopian culture book when writing this.
Thought this too. Soma. No idea why ive remembered that so long, I never even finished BNW and put it down almost a decade ago
Yeah sorry, the drug in 1984 is apparently just morphine and drinking yourself to death.
Wild how they both are so dystopian but 1984 is just straight up political fiction with like no SciFi and my brain was trying to add more
I’m about to finish reading 1984 for the first time.
Spoiler:
!Maybe they mean the drugs Winston is given after he is taken by the thought police?!<
Yeah, i rembered him going to the prole neighborhood and for some reason always put that into brave new world context from the apathy and squalor.
Plus definitely not a lack of drugs in 1984 just far more mundane.
Maybe the Chestnut tree was really just some sativa man.
Tf you mean?
Ecstacy exists for real.
Yeah and that’s not even a joke.
I’m gonna use more pretentious words just to reiterate the values of this succinct and correct comment.
Serotonergic drugs, also sometimes known as empathogens or entactogens (enhancing empathy and tactile sensation) have been shown to honestly be able to take care of depression terminally ill people have, for up to months, with a single dose.
Ofc there should be therapists as well, it’s not as simple as giving someone unfamiliar drugs telling them to eat them and that’s it. No for the terminally ill for instance you’d want a therapist there to help work out the experience of the session.
But for anyone somewhat healthy and young and looking to experience something like that, just go to a rave. Can’t tell you which though, as stimulants also have the people who use dopaminergic drugs and those don’t exactly make one happy.
Or just read up on what mdma is how to use it safely and look up some artist you like from the EDM scene (so that itd be higher chances of other people rolling as well) and go.
Genuinely the happiest nights of my life some of them. Some not as much, went a bit beyond therapy. Lol.
Rumor has it that molly is typically laced with some nasty shit these days.
Completely depends on where you’re from and who you’re buying from, but not that I’ve ever seen.
“lacing” drugs as a concept is about as reasonable as reefer madness.
What on Earth would be the point of poisoning your customers?
It’s not like MDMA is that hard to synthesise that there’s some sort of evil cabal of drug manufacturers who just all decide to poison a supply.
Stop listening to propaganda. But also, be mindful of what you’re doing. That’s why testing points are quite common in more progressive countries.
Because while “lacing drugs” is completely idiotic, selling for instance carfentanyl as MDMA is something that could very well happen.
My own dealer told me to stop buying hash, because he’s seen it padded with arbitrary gunk. It’s not like the user can tell what’s in there.
Afaik various random amphetamines are most often sold as molly and especially lsd, which latter is reportedly completely impossible to find for real in the parts of the world where I am, except maybe for a thousand bucks a tab.
Unless youre getting some stone hard soap bar from the Russians, yeah, you can actually taste if there is or isn’t something added to your weed. Just like you would if I dipped your cigarette in petrol and let it dry out before you smoked it. It would be painfully obvious it’s adulterated.
And again, for what reason? What is the motivation of adulterating drugs?
Afaik various random amphetamines are most often sold as molly and especially lsd
Why would you sell someone amphetamines as lsd? First off, LSD is cheaper, by a lot. Secondly, you use them in completely different ways and one is stinky af and the other is completely tasteless. It’d be like trying to pass off coffee as hot chocolate. Do the drinks have some vague similarity and a person who doesn’t know what either means could be mistaken? Yeah.
But anyone who’s ever had a cup of coffee wouldn’t.
especially lsd, which latter is reportedly completely impossible to find for real in the parts of the world where I am, except maybe for a thousand bucks a tab.
Well sounds like you’re in, idk, some Asian country with extremely harsh drug laws? Even so, you could order it by post for 20 dollars a tab. You’d have to pay in crypto and there’s not a guarantee it makes it there, but just because you don’t know any sellers doesn’t mean it’s not there’s. You just don’t have the connections.
Why would lsd be cheaper when it’s well-known that it’s difficult to produce? Whereas, from what I know, there are a whole bunch of different amphetamines, and e.g. meth is pretty abundant.
A person who’s never tried actual lsd by the virtue of absence of such in their country, wouldn’t know what it should be like. They’d just have some buzz and a somewhat psychedelic effect from whatever they were sold. I’m not convinced you yourself got real lsd, if you think it’s cheaper than other drugs.
And again, for what reason? What is the motivation of adulterating drugs?
Do you seriously have trouble with the concept of why mixing flour into coke is beneficial for the dealer’s bottom line?
It’s cheaper per dose, not per kg.
You only need micrograms to have a good time whereas with amphetamines it’s decigrams.
And even if the motivation was in place, again, it’d be harder to pass of meth as lsd than it would be to pass milky chocolate as water.
They’d just have some buzz and a somewhat psychedelic effect from whatever they were sold. I’m not convinced you yourself got real lsd, if you think it’s cheaper than other drugs.
I’ve done literally every single drug you can even imagine. You just clearly have no experience if you think anyone even slightly experienced could be fooled to take meth as lsd.
I’m not exaggerating with “it’d be harder to pass hot chocolate as water”.
Do you seriously have trouble with the concept of why mixing flour into coke is beneficial for the dealer’s bottom line?
That’s not adulteration, you donkey. That’s the dealer ensuring noobs like you don’t kill themselves while also increasing their profits. And if you put flour in your meth and sold it, you’d have less fingers in a week. What you use is much better and less noticeable substances. I know which ones, I’ve done it. It’s about adding non-psychoactive, non-harmful substances, so your users don’t notice nor get sick so they actually come back.
Although kids like you, when you cut shit, even if you didn’t use flour but what we actually use, you’d cut it too much and get caught because you have no understanding of what you’re on about.
Bro clearly never taken molly.
lol, and a dozen others to.
we have like 2 entire classes of drug specifically for this purpose…
There are definitely drugs that make you happy.
I love drugs, but, like another commenter pointed out, feeling happy is different than being happy.
I was happy once, some long time ago - nowadays i sometimes make myself feel happy.
I’d love to be happy again, in exchange for never having access to drugs again.
Euphoric. Drugs that make you euphoric.
Read the fucking book
Please read the fucking book
I did. I just misremembered the plot and hoped everyone was so apathetic cause drugs.
Sorry to have failed you.
This mea culpa is not quite as filling as it should be. Need some deep face down arse up genuflexion.
Just kidding.
The fact you owned the mistake is enough.
Both books are excellent
face down arse up
We are MUCH MUCH closer to the BNW/Fahrenheit 451 dystopias than 1984.
I mean, people are willingly spending money to have a telescreen in their house.
Everyone talks to their phones instead of typing now, and like microphones and cameras are everywhere.
And we have let all infrastructure start to fail as long as it isnt a shiny thing rich people interact with.I dunno man its getting pretty 1984.
1984 forced all of that.
Brave New World, people LOVE it and can’t imagine any other way to live.
Brave New World is the nightmare dystopia we CHOOSE, not the one that gets forced on us.
Oh for sure people view the idea of being reduced to an object of the state apparently shockingly happily enough.
But we have a department of war that our dear leader of just got a peace medal and awards. Like the doublespeak is here. And we dont spit people out of bottles already premade for their role.
Department of education is run by an entertainer who also cuts budget for schools.Its definitely a mix of them.
I think the world is 1984, but the vibes are desperate for the fake utopia of Brave New World.2026:
FWIW, the biggest sci-fi in 1984 wasn’t big brother or the proto-internet. It was a predictive model of human behavior that could perfectly predict individual behavior.
That, and a competent tyrannical regime.
(My personal headcannon is that “Airstrip one” or whatever they called Britain is the North Korea of its world, and everyone else just ignores them.)
There are drugs that can make you happy or emotionally numb. They tend to have different effects for different people, but I can definitely imagine science plausibly making a drug that makes everybody happy or emotionally numb. For me, marijuanna makes me emotionally numb and laugh at inappropriate times.
Someone’s never had X
Th drug soma was from another dystopian novel. Brave new world by Huxley.
Yeah I thought I remembered a drug in 1984 but it is just gin and cigarettes and everyone’s brain making them apathetic.
So even closer to reality except for gen z.
While we’re discussing dystopian sci-fi happy pills, I just want to mention The Giver. In that book, people are given drugs after they hit puberty, to suppress sexual desire and other emotions
I got real happy last weekend, and it wasn’t on life!
