Useragent counts towards this?
Yeah it’ll be a naive check of just Useragent, so some of these will be bots, some will be spoofed, etc
I think this is YoY PP growth as a percentage, which might be unintentionally confusing.
Link my friend?
There’s an old thing “the thing that won the Video Format Wars was porn”, because in the 80s, mail order porn was very popular, and the easiest format (VHS) to buy and record onto won largely because of that.
Makes me wonder if we’ll see the same for Operating Systems?
PornHub is a treasure trove for… data science
Hey. It’s been a lonely year. Don’t shame me, bro.
But nobody did…
I watch porn sometimes. Period. No need too add guilt, shame or anything negative too that. It is somethin people do and is part of how people live their sexuality and that’s that.
Year of the Linux gooning
I’m doing my part!
Heh, my “part”
angry upvote 😡
Would love to see what kind of porn Linux users watch compared to others.
Polyamorous in public. It’s open and anyone can contribute.
Brilliant
“Femboy” or furry, obviously.
I use Arch btw.
Anime? Manga? Tentacle?
Whatever type it’s probably esoteric and somehow involves the command line.
Whatever kink, but with consent not sudo.
sudo is asking for permission. It’s su that is straight up pillaging.
what else is there ? porn with a GUI ??
Well, a terminal can be pure porn.
Rule 34
Why did no one tell me about the terminal tentacles?
Personally, nothing on PornHub.
I’d guess there’s less traffic to “landlubber” sites from Linux users.
I love when they give us this hard data. You can take this proof and shove it down hater’s throats and perhaps even in other parts of their body.
The safe word is “Torvalds”.
And the password for extra punishment is “closed source”
Lots of wankers using Linux, eh?
People probably don’t want to watch it with their Microsoft employee.
unfortunately this is mostly an instance of https://xkcd.com/1102/
Yeah, I wish they’d made the second graph show percentage point difference instead of percentage growth.
It’s probably SteamDecks alone.
While that is a good point (and an xkcd I didn’t know), the stats say Linux also had the largest absolute growth, so it’s not quite as misleading as you make it out to be
I’m as happy about this news as the next tech enthusiast, but bluntly, it’s not a big shift. Going from … What? 5% to 6%? That’s great and all but it’s hardly moving the needle.
If we want a significant shift we need OEMs selling prebuilt PCs with some flavor of Linux pre-installed, that’s as easy to use as the competition (Windows/mac) with compatibility that’s both good enough and transparent enough that people don’t need to think about it much.
Before we get Linux OEM PCs on store shelves, we need to figure out that last bit first.
That still hasn’t happened yet. We can’t even agree what window manager should be used, nevermind any of the dozen or so other critical services on the system…
The thing that makes Linux great is that anyone and everyone can, and does, make stuff for it. That’s also the thing that’s going to hold it back from being put on store shelves pre installed on prebuilt PCs.
a little funny to see someone say the same exact thing as me, but conclude the opposite thing
https://fosstodon.org/@Logical/_Error/115674824627182408
that 1% gain translates to a lot of people. app devs will hopefully target linux now as there are finally a sizable amt of people on the platform. its breaking the chicken and egg cycle
no need to worry about the software fragmentation. it gives OEMs a choice on how they would like to sell a system. we dont want to be like android now do we. i see it as a plus
These are all valid opinions. Certainly 1% of movement is better than no movement. Certainly gets us closer to the goal, but IMO, it will take more movement before publishers will take Linux seriously, especially for more custom applications.
What? 5% to 6%? That’s great and all but it’s hardly moving the needle.
It’s huge because the people who do the tech support in the families are moving.
My elderly, former programmer father is one. Too bad it took him 30 years after first trying but he is up and running now for about three months 😁️ Now to get him off the Apple phone and into an alt android OS…
That’s an important step, for sure, but that’s not going to push the majority.
I’m that guy for plenty of people and the number of times a conversation starts with “so I bought…” is crazy. It’s basically the first thing anyone says to me when they need help.
This.
The one step that would really push a lot would be if you can go to your local electronics store and buy a PC there with Linux preinstalled and completely setup, just like you can with Windows, Mac and ChromeOS.
That’s why the Steam Deck actually pushed the Linux market share quite a bit.
I mean, there is a thing like that and it’s called Chromebooks, but we, the tech people, deemed ChromeOS not Linux enough and told everyone not to buy chromebooks.
But still ChromeOS is by far the most popular Linux distro with about 5x the market share of the next most popular Linux distro (which is Arch, thanks to the Steam Deck).
I don’t know if you already use Linux or not, but if you do you have a valid excuse for why you can’t help them with their impulse buy from HP. So if they want your help, they can take your suggestions for where to get a Linux computer, such as System76, Framework, and I think even some Dell models come with it preinstalled. There’s probably some I forgot, but the point is, those selling Linux machines are in a growth market that only seems to be accelerating. It should be only a matter of time before more players want a piece of that.
So honest question, what is everyone’s hopes with the increase in Linux desktop use?
Like when I think about it the only thing I really care about is that I have decent hardware/driver support and holdouts for anti-cheat give up on requiring other operating systems (mostly so that my wife and eldest child stop complaining that I can’t play Fortnite with them) as well as other random stuff that flat-out blocks use with Linux and requires either extra configuration or to keep a spare computer around with Windows.
Basically I hope that Linux can be where MacOS was about a decade ago, a second platform that vendors are aware of and will put in some amount of effort in to support (and will be clear about limitations/lack of support otherwise) and it won’t be as weird to employers or schools if you have a preference for the platform
If you look at the commercially successful variants of Linux (ChromeOS and Android), you’ll see that taking away freedom/choice was the first thing they did.
And ultimately, if you are targeting the mass market, that’s almost required.
ChromeOS isn’t successful.
Successful compared to what? I don’t have data, but I’d venture to say that it’s the most popular desktop Linux distro.
It’s a bit past its peak, but in 2023 it had 7% market share in the quite lucrative North American market. That’s not nothing. In North America, all other Linux distros combined just overtook ChromeOS this year. World-wide it was last year.
There’s also no other Linux distro that comes pre-installed on devices from different manufacturers (at least none that I know of).
Yes. By the porn stats, Linux already crushes ChromeOs. Let’s not take any advice from it.
Well, all Linux distros combined are more than ChromeOS. If you split up by distro, ChromeOS is still the top Linux distro by far.
Interesting. I would have guessed that Mint gave ChromeOS a run for it’s money, by now.
Really difficult to actually get good numbers here since there’s a ton of sampling bias and user agent strings (which are used for most of these market share detectors) don’t capture Linux distros apart from ChromeOS.
But we can combine sources to get somewhere.
The Steam Hardware and Software Survey doesn’t include any data on ChromeOS, because there’s no Steam on ChromeOS, but it says that there’s a total market share for Linux of 3.2% with the most common Linux Distro being Arch with a market share of 0.32% (probably due to the Steam Deck), followed by Mint with 0.24%.
So double the maket share to get roughly to the 6.3% total Linux maket share from PH, and we get Arch with 0.64% and Mint with 0.48%, which is both much much lower than the 2.4% of ChromeOS on PH.
Standardization is a requirement. Whether that still gives the user the ability to color outside of the lines on what’s considered “standard” will be the key factor.
If we want a significant shift we need OEMs selling prebuilt PCs with some flavor of Linux pre-installed, that’s as easy to use as the competition (Windows/mac) with compatibility that’s both good enough and transparent enough that people don’t need to think about it much.
This probably won’t be showing up on shelves at best buy along side computers from the likes of Dell, HP, and Lenovo. I kind of expect it to show up next to the Xbox, PlayStation, and switch, if it shows up at all.
Also, steamOS is not exactly a desktop operating system right out of the gate, is entirely gaming focused. Yeah, you can use it for those things, but that’s not the focus of the device/OS.
I’m not sure Grandma and Grandpa would want a steam machine as a replacement for their aging Windows 7 home computer.
I’m not sure Grandma and Grandpa would want a steam machine as a replacement for their aging Windows 7 home computer.
Fair. But for my gram, it would have been a slam dunk day one buy. She loved her playstation and only tolerated her PC. She would have called a Steam Machine “my game console that can check email” and would have adored it.
why not?? best buy sells steam decks and the ROG ally… costco sells garbage pre-builts, there is no reason the gabecube shouldn’t find retail shelf space, especially since xbox seems intent on exiting the console market.
the fact that it’s a linux box is only appealing to nerds, how may ppl actually ran linux on the ps3?? hint: a lot less people than were upset when sony took it away lol. gabecube being a pc is a bonus feature, will it be a big enough bonus feature to drive sales like bundling your fist dvd or bluray player?? probably not… but it will be enough to maybe sway a few people sitting on the fence?? maybe!
Now that Linux is mainstream where do we move to feel elitist? DragonFly BSD? Redox OS?
I preordered a Jolla. Chasing that “0.6 % Other” high.
TempleOS
The real elites shall forever be the Plan9 group. There’s dozens of users! Dozens!
SerenityOS is “a love letter to '90s user interfaces with a custom Unix-like core”.
It’s good enough to be proud of, while alienating normal people, not incidentally, like linux used to, but on purpose, like this sentence does, making it a great for elitists.Perfect. Installing now.
Next year will be SerenityOS desktop year!
I thought it was not recommended to run on bare metal? There are some other obscure OSes that can run fine on bare metal (although Serenity is not really obscure in the foss space, only in the mainstream)
Hmm I cannot find some community discussions about this on distrowatch but this looks surely awesome! I always wanted to go back to my childhoods computing interface – oh god I need that
But what type of kernel is this the new talk about “custom unix-like core”? So this is not linux, it is also not unix? Seems like it would bring me back the same fun of exploring some unknown os, like when I was 7 years old.
HaikuOS
We just start the distro wars.
The Distro Wars have already been raging for decades now.
I’m on Debian. Is that niche enough?
Nope too mainstream. Try Kali Linux at least.
Did they not rebrand to ParrotOS or smth?
Kali and Parrot were two separate distros last time I used Parrot.
Again? It used to be called something else even further back.
It must be part of the “security through making it hard to search for online” strategy.
Create ExLisperOS and you’re good to go.
Linux marketshare is now big enough to fit tux inside the chart! We did it!
It’s the year of the Linux desktop
It’s funny to think there are already teenagers born in a year of the Linux desktop
Exactly like the girls fantasized:
Thank you to all the linux gooners bumping these numbers up
I’m doing my part 🫡
Its going to end up 1-2 freak self hoster’s torrenting terrabytes of movies for the jellyfin servers instead of just streaming their porn, and thats why linux gets a marketshare.
/s
Can you not talk about my porn habits in public? Thanks.
Stash app is better for PH style content.
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