https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
“Israel could “bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)” as well as the “holy places of Islam.” and that the “abandonment of proportionality is the essence” of the Samson Option.” - Ron Rosenbaum
”For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?” - David Perlmutter
https://www.theinteldrop.org/2025/06/17/new-leak-reveals-israels-samson-option-includes-american-cities-on-nuclear-target-list/
According to security analysts who have reviewed the leaked documents, cities identified in the alleged target list include New York, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, and the NORAD command center in Colorado. Also named are Brussels, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Beijing, and Tehran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
In the 1973 Yom Kippur War, Arab forces were overwhelming Israeli forces and Prime Minister Golda Meir authorized a nuclear alert and ordered 13 atomic bombs be readied for use by missiles and aircraft. The Israeli Ambassador informed President Richard Nixon that “very serious conclusions” may occur if the United States did not airlift supplies. Nixon complied. This is seen by some commentators on the subject as the first threat of the use of the Samson Option.
Here is a map showing countries that are within Israel’s nuclear targeting range:
Yeah Mutually Assured Destruction is a helluva thing isn’t it?
Antisemitic types that want another holocaust might be butt-hurt over this, but most people understand that all nukes are bad, but Israel’s nukes aren’t somehow worse than those owned by Russia, USA, China, UK, France, North Korea, India, or Pakistan. Every one of those countries would nuke another country if they became an existential threat to them. But why are you upset over Israel having nukes and don’t worry at all about the other eight countries that have them?
Oh right, because they’re Jews.
Feel free to your rationalizations over why your feelings on this aren’t rooted in antisemitism below this comment.
According to grindinsource and scamdoc, theinteldrop is not a trustworthy website and might be linked to Russian disinformation campaigns. Please take the information about attacking allies, mentioned above, with a grain of salt.
Yeah the website itself is not particularly reputable, I should have cited a different source, however the information they’re citing comes directly from intelligence agencies and has been reported by numerous other publications.
You should have cited one of those then. Lmao. I have a girlfriend too. You wouldn’t know her. She goes to another school.
This is only remarkable for people unfamiliar with cold war nuclear strategy and tactics. It’s all insane, and Israel isn’t the fist, or most credible, to have a doomsday plan.
There is no centrist position between total nuclear weapons ban and murder the world.
Every single nuclear power and target (every geopolitical entity) has this kind of list.
”For the first time in history, a people facing extermination while the world either cackles or looks away—have the power to destroy the world. The ultimate justice?” - David Perlmutter
But the Palestinians do not have nuclear weapons.
That threw me for a loop for longer than I care to admit. They are really deranged, aren’t they?
I’m reminded of the cycle of abuse and the passing on of personality disorders from parent to child. They’re so obsessed with their own trauma that they’re gleefully doing to others what was done to them. They don’t see the similarities and have come to see the problem with what was done to them more in who it was done to than what was done.
This is also interesting because I see it significantly less in Jewish communities outside Israel. Sure, there are plenty who side with Israel no matter what and believe whatever they say, but in Israel it’s different, it’s like nearly the whole country has lost its mind and soul.
Fuck the “state” of israel
If you thought the Brits and the French were mad dogs, if you thought their son, America, was a rabid beast, wait til you meet the latest addition to the family!
Well russians got same idea, what’s the point of the world if russia is not in it ;D not surprised at all, they’re just old mad wankers
Ok so no this is completely wrong.
Russia’s “Dead Hand” is a “guaranteed second-strike” that activates only if their nuclear C&C is destroyed. This system is precisely designed to reinforce the logic of MAD and is thus counter-escalatory.
This from the Zionist entity is the complete and total opposite in every possible way. They talk about it as though it is defensive but this is a nuclear first-strike. They don’t just target their enemies but their allies too. This is the most grotesque and despicable extortion leveled against the whole world
They’re two sides of the same coin and not functionally much different. In a world with nuclear weapons everyone must have a “last resort” strategy like this: the perception of the destruction of the state triggers nuclear annihilation (against anyone/everyone; you plan for all options). The only other theorized response is to voluntarily roll over and die so humanity can live, and nobody with nukes is going to admit to that.
In a real scenario you could never verify if the first launch was from a credible threat retaliation or not. Even if you could, first strike vs retaliatory is cold comfort when everyone is starving in a nuclear winter. It’s not worth getting upset over a wikipedia article with a bunch of journalist quotes and opinion pieces. We’ve known about MAD since 1962.
So your whole argument is that in a nuclear exchange it could be hard in practice to identify the initial aggressor, therefore there is no meaningful difference between a nuclear first strike and a nuclear second strike? Is that what you are saying?
They target “allies” if they’re not "ally"ing hard enough. Threatening the world to get what they want
Are the down votes zionists or is there something else?
Probably weirdo zionists
I’m downvoting people here for being unreasonable asswipes, but I’m not Zionist and support the end of Israel’s violence against Palestinians. I also support the dissolution of Hamas and Hezbollah, and the imprisonment of Netanyahu. But a lot of people on Lemmy seem like they’re antisemite shills or bots, who want an end to Israel as a state, and those people can go fuck themselves.
Yes, but you’re the one calling it Israeli violence not genocide, and writing the z word with a capital.
Wow, are you that precious about this shit? Clutch them pearls tighter!
Is it ok to want genocidal States to end?
This is (one of) the real reason the West always acquisces to Israel, although Israel will call it a fairy tale.
This argument doesn’t make sense, the UK, France and the US have nuclear weapons, why would they acquiesce to Israel because they have them? In the case of the US, they could continue launching nuclear weapons at Israel long after their stockpile has been exhausted.
I imagine every nuclear state has developed such extreme plans. Singling Israel out for criticism over it makes no sense.
Oh, unless you’re an antisemite, I guess.
Equating the state of Israel with the Jewish faith is antisemitism. Not all Jews are Israeli, not all Israelis are Jewish, and the state of Israel doesn’t speak for all Jews.
If anyone speaks Hebrew please correct me, but it’s been explained to me that in Jewish tradition, there isn’t a single word for Israel the way it’s used in the West. You have the land Jewish people lived on historically, the people descended from Abraham who inhabit(/ed) that land, and you have the modern state of Israel. Overlap between the three definitions doesn’t imply they’re the same thing.
I speak Hebrew and you’re not 100% correct here. “Eretz yisrael” (land of Israel) is mentioned in the Torah and all sorts of other religious texts. There’s also the word “Yerushalayim”, which is Jerusalem. For Ashkenazi Jews during chanukkah, there’s a famous saying: “L’Shana Haba’ah B’Yerushalayim” which means “next year in Jerusalem”.
I’m stretching my memory here but from what I recall this wasn’t based only on the Torah, but on traditional Jewish philosophical thought as well; I couldn’t tell you whether this was, say, 11th or 18th century philosophy, though.
It’s entirely possible I’m misremembering, if you think that’s the case I can edit out that part of my first comment to avoid misinformation
Ya the phrase is definitely from 1400s or so Jewish philosophy, not strictly from the Torah. You can think of it as Ashkenazi DLC
Yep criticizing Israel = antisematism, thats a healthy attitude that doesn’t at all backfire against the Jewish people and faith.
I never said that. I’m plenty critical of Israel. I said that singling them out for something basically every country with nuclear weapons does makes no sense. Unless, you’re an antisemite.
Every other nuclear power does not have a literal plan to nuke their allies. Stop acting like a Zionist.
Oh, boy! If you like long podcasts, Behind the Bastards did a 5 parter about the history of the nuclear programs.
spoiler: USA kinda did have a literal program to nuke random cities possibly unrelated to the potential source of the attack.
https://omny.fm/shows/behind-the-bastards/part-one-the-men-who-might-have-killed-us-all
Sounds fun, I will check it out.
I’m not so sure about that now that I consider it. Military loves contingencies. If USA were to get invaded by Russia or China and somehow was losing and no one helped us for some reason, wouldn’t we threaten Europe or Canada etc? I can see crazy contingency plans being drawn up for dire circumstances
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Oh they do have contingency plans and I looked them up. Nothing like Israel though!
Not to bomb there allies, this only “makes sense” if the country is getting invaded and they want to punish there allies for not defending them. The US cannot be invaded and even if they were they aren’t dependent on there allies to defend them, same with USSR/Russia.
Maybe France or the UK mulled over bombing dc if the Russians invaded but they probably didn’t look too far as that would take away any chance for a d-day 2 that could free them. It also may bring about a counterattack by the US, and France has shown in WWII they would rather surrender to the enemy then see Paris burn.
You’re just a Nazi that wants to force all Jews to move to Israel.
Okay. And? Why?
Is this some scaremongering post that we should be afraid of Israel?
There are plenty of countries with the same capabilities.
Those fucking Zionists would get bombed into oblivion themselves quicker than they can fire all their rockets.
Are you familiar with how the story of Samson ends?
the world should fear any country with nukes
They won’t, because the US is on their side and hates Europe and Russia can’t afford nuclear payloads.
