How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?

  • LordGimp@lemm.ee
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    13 minutes ago

    You misunderstand. Cops in the US have no legal obligation to protect OR serve anyone. Check out the NY subway guy that was attacked with a knife while cops watched from 10 feet away behind bulletproof glass. They literally hid in the conductor booth and watched this guy get stabbed in the fucking face repeatedly.

    Not only did the guy survive, he actually overpowered and subdued the attacker. Guy brought a suit against the NYPD for failing to protect him when their motto at the time was literally “Protect and serve”. Long story short, the end result is that he got a real live judge to say out loud that police have no actual duty to protect you when it could endanger themselves. Coupled with your observation on the obesity of American cops, it could be argued that walking down the street to issue a ticket could be lethal for the cop in question and therefore they have no obligation to do it, they simply choose to do it out of spite.

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    Since you’re using terminology tied to BMI, it is important to note that it’s use for police officers doesn’t accurately reflect reality.

    A lot of cops take their fitness regime seriously, including building a lot of muscle mass. If you have significant muscle mass, you are going to be considered obese or morbidly obese per BMI even though they are in great physical shape. This would be true for other fields like firefighters.

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      Exact. I started working out to lose weight and turned from slightly over weight to obese. I lost a decent amount of fat but gained a lot of weight building up muscle mass. 12 kg in about a year. BMI sucks.

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    2 hours ago

    Many departments don’t require physical tests once hired.

    Most of the work cops do is domestic disturbance calls and traffic stops. There’s no reason to be physically fit for either of those jobs. Also, most people see the day shift and in nicer neighborhoods; again there’s really no need for physicality. Getting on day shift and good area means you’ve been on the police a while and “earned it” (or you have some clout), so usually olderish cops.

    The young jacked mfers usually are on the night shift and in rougher neighborhoods.

    Additionally, a bullet resistant vest and all the gear will make you look bigger/fatter than you really are.

    So it’s kind of a combo of all that.

    Also, ACAB

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    2 hours ago

    Becauase people who are sensible and emotionally stable enough to be healthy probably aren’t stupid or malicious enough to be cops.

    You also can’t be a cop at some stations if your IQ is tested too high.

    They want obedient bullies, it’s a low bar.

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    5 hours ago

    How is someone that gets out of breath eating a donut going to protect and serve anyone?

    They don’t serve anyone

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    7 hours ago

    Why are they also so clearly low iq, and hyper violent?
    and why are they paid so well?

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    I think once you pass the physical strength/endurance exam to become a cop, you don’t have to take any to remain one. I definitely think that should change, though. Make them pass once a year to retain their job.

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      They don’t even have to pass those if they don’t want to. In portions of America it is just: win an election, appoint your friends and lackies.

      A lot of departments use the admission tests to screen out candidates who might be overqualified: they specifically won’t want the best. An overwight blob is preferable to an in shape individual that might think before acting.

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      7 hours ago

      Fuck the physical part, they should take yearly psychological exams and have continuous education on conflict resolution.

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      There are definitely agencies that do exactly what you described. The one I’m most familiar with has a sliding scale based on age and they are required to pass annually.

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    In my part of the world, cops are near on top of the food chain in any town and city, sometimes literally getting a free pass as long as they do something for a politician, a celebrity, or a business personality. So some of them, especially senior officers, do eventually get obese because not only they get to choose what duties they want to carry out, but also either they have three full square meals plus two snacks a day, or maybe a drinking party two to four times a month.

    Of course they – the Philippine National Police – are a government agency, but also they’re a fraternity, the so-called “Brotherhood”: “you scratch my back as long as I scratch yours”.

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    11 hours ago

    i have been to the US several times. Have you ever tried to eat healthily?

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    Heard from a local cop that it had something to do with the union. If the department wants to implement a standard the union would require something or other. Something about an incentive? I didn’t get the whole picture obviously. I know police need unions in case somebody sues them but does seem kind of dumb that it’s so difficult to enforce a physical standard.

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      Now I dont work in the law enforcement industry but I do work in an industry that has supposed fitness requirements although they arent enforced.

      For us, the union told them “If they have to maintain a weight of X to remain employed. You have to pay them to hit the gym on company time or pay their gym fees and an allowance.” So the company filed that away under “fuck that”. Now if you get too fat for the equipment they just move you to a different duty, often one with a shitload of walking around.

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        17 hours ago

        I think NPR or PBS can’t lie on the news or over the air public local news. The over the air news usually will have a PSA opinion piece and it’s usually by the owners and mostly sways right. Cable news is free for all and one sided.

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      21 hours ago

      This is a common misconception in the U.S., it’s not even the car’s job… that crappy sticker has the shittiest union.

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        21 hours ago

        That sticker was exclusive to the LAPD, but it kept turning up in films made in Hollywood set elsewhere, so other regions adopted it eventually too.

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          20 hours ago

          Man, that kind of figures… I bet it was a PR campaign that they paid for. So in a way we all got value out of that lie… nope. No satisfying conclusion to be found here 😒